Which fighter do you like most? Hurri, Spit, 109?

[5./JG27.Farber]

Is that with a miss shellings orifice fitted or not? BoB pilots seem to think it was a big deal.


I started out as a Hurricane pilot but I was brought over to the darkside by a good pilot who showed me some of the ropes. From then on its been 109 all the way. I dont even like the FW190 that much. I like the firepower and robustness of the 110 and the odd dabble in a STUKA.

As for spits, what about them? I dont think its worthing talking to much about flight models till we get the tweeked ones, then the arguements really will fly

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Is that with a miss shellings orifice fitted or not? BoB pilots seem to think it was a big deal.

I have no idea, but the engine sputters the whole time, so I doubt it. The problem demonstrated by that video was that the atrocious flight model in this game doesn't kill the horsepower when the engine floods.

As for spits, what about them? I dont think its worthing talking to much about flight models till we get the tweeked ones, then the arguements really will fly

Agree. Currently the Spit 1a underperforms by a significant amount and the Spit 2a overperforms by an equally significant amount so until they fix the flight models it's really not worth discussing them.

The Hurri on the other hand is a good opponent for the 109E, and in good hands is a very real threat.

[FFCW_Urizen]

i love my spitties, then comes hurries *sigh*

[Robert]

I'm a lover, not a fighter. I like the Tiger Moth.

It's a serious toss up between the Hurri and the 109. Aiming is easier in the Hurricane because the sight isn't off set. I fly with Track IR and am still not used to that in the 109 and the LEAN to SIGHT function isn't too smooth - especially when you shoot past an enemy in a boom and zoom, and you still need to track him. The reversion back to regular view is clumsy and time consuming. Unless there's another function I'm not aware of the LEAN to SIGHT is useless for me.

Barring that I like everything else about the 109. I have gotten better at turn and burn tactics with the Hurricane. I always BnZ with the Hurri in IL2. I seemed to lose my energy faster than needed if I TnB in one, but in CoD I've forced myself to try different tactics - especially because of the carb cut out on neg Gs.

I haven't spent much time in the Spit.


109 is my pick.

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Originally Posted by Robert

I'm a lover, not a fighter. I like the Tiger Moth.

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Originally Posted by Robert

...Aiming is easier in the Hurricane because the sight isn't off set. I fly with Track IR and am still not used to that in the 109 and the LEAN to SIGHT function isn't too smooth - especially when you shoot past an enemy in a boom and zoom, and you still need to track him. The reversion back to regular view is clumsy and time consuming. Unless there's another function I'm not aware of the LEAN to SIGHT is useless for me....

thx Robert,for german-offcenterd-sight-point.

#1 to handle it better by TIR, you can offcenter your head slightly to the left und push the center-key then, this brings the sight to the center of your POW, hope this helps!

#2 The offcenter design was made to force german pilots to aime with their right (dominant) eye. The dominant eye is your "main" eye, while the other allows the stereoscopic viewing. I do archering a little bit, but "unfortunately" my dominating eye is the left as it is for many other people, too. Maybe dued to the Nazi-ideology that the "superior aryan" has allways the right eye as the dominating one. I don't know. Did they loose the battle dued this ? After '45 they gave up the thing.

#3 Comparing VR against RL: As we are unable to use this gunsight in the "right" way, because of the lack of real stereoscopic view, we are reaching the limits of a Sim! As we also have to face these facts concerning the physical labour in a dogfight, pain if you get a hit, and so on. 99% accurate flightmodelling should be feasible however

[Verhängnis]

For combat, I'd prefer the 109, for general flying, love the G-50. Hopefully after the new FM for it comes, I will love it even more.

[klem]

With the correct FMs? The Spitfire for straight dogfighting. It was better at that than the 109 except for the combat bunt. Of course the 109s didn't dogfight very much and played to their strengths of high numbers, high energy tactics and more powerful guns. But if they tried to dogfight it was a different story.

As the FMs are at the moment? The Rotol Hurri and 109s are a trade off for me, partly of 'loyalty'. Hurri for maneouverability, 109 for climb, guns and simple engine management. I fly RAF so for me its the Hurricane but the 109 is probably the better choice as they are currently modelled or even when they are properly modelled (the Merlin negative G is still way too sensitive for reasonable maneouvres, leaving out the combat bunt). The Spitfire II would probably be most peoples favourite if they put 'loyalty' aside simply because its the only Spitfire modelled near correctly while the 109s aren't (if these forums are correct). The Spitfire Is power and speed are almost laughable although handling seems to be quite good.

[Red Dragon-DK]

Why are bombers not in the list? Would you be so cind, to add those to the list? Some of us we like a good dogfight, but doing this all the time, can be qiut borring. I like a lot to do sorties in the JU88. others prefer sorties in HE111, Blenhaim, Ju87, Savoia-Marchetti S-79.

But as a fighter pilot 109. It handle great, have a good preformans speed and turns well. Good a decent firepower.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by Red Dragon-DK

Why are bombers not in the list? Would you be so cind, to add those to the list? Some of us we like a good dogfight, but doing this all the time, can be qiut borring. I like a lot to do sorties in the JU88. others prefer sorties in HE111, Blenhaim, Ju87, Savoia-Marchetti S-79.

But as a fighter pilot 109. It handle great, have a good preformans speed and turns well. Good a decent firepower.

Cheers

Hi RD-DK,
Bombers are not on the list, because the goal of the topic ist not to know which AC we in general prefer in that Sim, it is just for to know which fightermodel we prefer for special fighter Missions/ tacticals/ fighter arming layouts etc. Talking about the "Lofte"-bombingsight, for ex. would be oT.
But we can have that discussion aswell.
Come on, give us a new thread!
cheers

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Originally Posted by Verhängnis

For combat, I'd prefer the 109, for general flying, love the G-50. Hopefully after the new FM for it comes, I will love it even more.

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