Friday Update, February 17, 2012

[Buchon]

EPIC update, my eyes can´t unseen

Some video stuff remind me Flash Point (the first one off course )

Incredible update, I'm just speechless ...

[StG2_Winni]

Thank you BS and team!!!

I hope the graphic issues will be resolved soon! Looking forward for the update!

Eventuelly we will meet in sky



StG2_Winni

[swiss]

Originally Posted by csThor

It's everyone's right to question the motivation and reasons for spending - apparently spare and priceless - development resources on what is not essential for the flight simulation CloD was advertized as. Simply put a Royal Navy Destroyer is a lot more relevant for a decent representation of the Battle of Britain (think Kanalkampf) than drivable vehicles.

Uh -

If I understood Lu' correctly, the project CLOD as an geographical and historical one is done - they moved on.

The said they will fine-tune the engine, and the result will be available for the clod owners as patch (as well).

You can be sure additional planes and decoration (like the "H.M.S. Ridiculous", lol) will eventually find their way into the game series, included in the sequels to come - but not as patch for bob.

That's diva behavior and not the rational behavior of a businessman.

His pov could be something like this:
The community dislikes our ships.
Hm.
Obviously we suck at it - let's move on and focus on something we're better at.

Sure, you could just try to improve, but i think ships are a rather expensive adventure.

[JG53Frankyboy]

let them work on what they want, thats ok.

how it will work out it will be shown when it comes to sell the planned sequel.

[GF_Mastiff]

I noticed only one machine gun firing from that pit it is a dual machine gun?

I also noticed the horizon looks allot better as do the graphics and atmosphere.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by bw_wolverine

So complaining about additional content in the game really just amounts to "I WANT MY THING FIRST!!!!"

That may be true for some..

But not all.. Some of us see this new content as 1C trying to be all things to all simmers (land, sea, and air)

Which sounds great in concept

But up to now has been imposable to do AND maintain a level of realism

For example, take BF3, it is all things to all simmers (land, sea, and air) but now take a look at each aspect of the game..

Land.. All vehicals are pretty dumbed down
Sea.. All vehicals are pretty dumbed down
Air.. All vehicals are pretty dumbed down

As nato said it "Jack of all trades master of none"

Now 1C is going to try and be the exception to that long standing rule

I for one hope they do it! In that I love WWII tank simulation!

If they do it and maintain the level of realism we are use to they will be the FIRST to do it!

It is that holy grail of games we have been dreaming about for 20+ years.

In summary, if you thought 1C bit off more than they could chew with CoD the flight sim..

Taking on this task is like taking another bite while your mouth is still full!

[Chivas]

I haven't read all of the thread, but this could be very good for all of us. Someone should post this video in the tank sim forums, if it hasn't been already. This could have many of the the tankers investing in the sim now.

I realize the angst some have of these features watering down a combat flight sim, but I doubt over the long haul this will be the case. The new series is primarily a combat flight sim made by combat flight sim enthusiasts, these features will only draw in money from other genres, that will help finance the sim over a very long haul. The added monies will allow for new features primarily aircombat in nature, and even ships that are sorely needed. The longer this sim stays in development the closer we are to the SDK.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Chivas

I realize the angst some have of these features watering down a combat flight sim, but I doubt over the long haul this will be the case. The new series is primarily a combat flight sim made by combat flight sim enthusiasts, these features will only draw in money from other genres, that will help finance the sim over a very long haul. The added monies will allow for new features primarily aircombat in nature, and even ships that are sorely needed. The longer this sim stays in development the closer we are to the SDK.

Fingers Crossed!

[David Hayward]

Adding vehicles to the game is pretty cool. People who don't like flight sims can be recruited to drive tanks and act as FAOs.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Chivas

I haven't read all of the thread, but this could be very good for all of us. Someone should post this video in the tank sim forums, if it hasn't been already. This could have many of the the tankers investing in the sim now. .......

i think tank simmers will only become interrested in these ground vehicles if the tank guns (and artillery units) are accurate with their guns, and if there is a good damage model for buildings and other tanks and ground vehicles/objects (blowing a turret, disabeling a tank by just having the tracks damaged etc). and there is no indications that this is the case right now for il2/BoB

i hope we will get accurate modeling for the tank and artillery guns (which the sim is already able to do with its advanced physics modeling), and have some good ways to control them and interact with them (which we dont even have for aircraft yet, let alone for ground vehicles). eg, for any kind of gameplay you need to make a tank unit move from point A to B (either by staying on roads, or directly through fields and forrests etc). you need to be able to instruct them as unit leader, so they engage (or avoid) the enemy when sighted, dig into stationary positions when creating a defensive position waiting for an enemy to come to them, get them to disperse when enemy aircraft attack etc.

similarly with ground artillery units, you would need to be able to accuratly lay down an artillery barage at the correct grid points, and have the shells do the desired and historically correct damage where they land (on buildings and ground objects or vehicles)

i think it is great we are about to get some 1e person control over vehicles, oleg and Co have been working on this for years, but we are still a significant step away from it adding a ground sim element or for it to be functional enough to have tank simmers start buying the game

speaking of which, we dont have the 3D craters yet !! (which we know oleg and Co had included in their game design)

but i agree, lets try and post some links to this video in tank sim forums, i am sure some of them are interested in adding an air element to their tank sim, and it will get them keeping an eye on further il2/SoW devellopments (and become future customers once some of these gameplay elements and damage models are added later)