Friday Update, February 17, 2012

[furbs]

Chivas, i think thats about 3 months worth of speculation bans right there!

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by No145_Bunny

Well,

this is a worry. I applaud the ability to make CLoD more appealing to more people who want to use vehicles and flak positions in such a way.
However,
The success of the original IL2 series was built on multiplayer Squadrons and on-line play using coops. The developers MUST fix/improve the multiplayer aspect of CLoD so that the VERY MANY SQUADRONS out there can invest their money and time into the product that should be the "next" IL2.

I am a member of a Squadron of 40+ players that all fly the original IL2, we want to purchase CLoD and use it BUT WE CANT BECAUSE MULTIPLAYER IS UNUSABLE!! Please work out how much money IC is losing in just this circumstance!

Your best stream of revenue must surely come from on-line Squadrons ? Shouldnt this take priority instead of vehicles I can drive around in whilst what I really want to do is fly a coop with 20+ Squadron members over the channel in the Battle of Britain ?



No145_Bunny
Tangmere Pilots

1. It's not unusable. Our crew are regularly getting into scraps on our server and we have formations of 30+ enemy regularly.
2. How many have actually tried? I mean, with respect, I don't remember ever seeing any TP online, and since you are admitting that 40+ of your guys haven't bought it yet anyway then you can't have tried it.
3. Look at the bigger picture. Without expansion you won't have a sim, it needs funding and this market is too niche. It isn't 2003 anymore.

My regards to Hatter.

[No145_Bunny]

Originally Posted by Osprey

1. It's not unusable. Our crew are regularly getting into scraps on our server and we have formations of 30+ enemy regularly.
2. How many have actually tried? I mean, with respect, I don't remember ever seeing any TP online, and since you are admitting that 40+ of your guys haven't bought it yet anyway then you can't have tried it.
3. Look at the bigger picture. Without expansion you won't have a sim, it needs funding and this market is too niche. It isn't 2003 anymore.

My regards to Hatter.

Im sorry, but a few of us T.P's have bought CLOD and have tried (very hard) to get a decent IL2 style coop going and have been faced with problem after problem after problem.

Dont get the wrong idea, we want CLOD to be a massive success and we want it to be the combat flight sim of choice for everyone, but compared to the "multi-player" playability of IL2, its just not there.

It speaks volumes in my mind that the only decent multi-player server out there is the ATAG one and that is primarily a dog fight server. IL2 has on 2000+ players on-line most nights in hyperlobby and lots of coops.

I like the vehicles BUT the hours spent on them could have been far better spent getting the other issues fixed first.

We at T.P have waited for 7-8 years to fly a BoB style campaign in a simulator that could do it justice, CLoD was meant to be just that, so you will understand our dissapointment.

Still maybe we call all "drive" a multiplayer race around the airfield perimeter track looking at all the lovely aircraft that we cant fly together?

No_145 Bunny

[Tigertooo]

Originally Posted by Osprey

2. How many have actually tried? I mean, with respect, I don't remember ever seeing any TP online, and since you are admitting that 40+ of your guys haven't bought it yet anyway then you can't have tried it.

just counted us on Steam and we have so far 20 Pilots who bought the Simulator.

Together all flew 1481 hours (counted our hours on Steam as well)

So a bit unfair to insinuate that we didn't actually tried.
I think we rather tried hard to fly together, would'nt you agree?

No43_Tigertooo
Tangmere Pilots

[Rjel]

I like the idea of cruising around the landscape, mostly to sight see. Even if its a dumbed down version of ground vehicles. Playing around in armor shooting at buildings and such appeals in a limited way too. But I really can't see this developing into a situation where some players decide it would be a great idea to re-create the evacuation of Dunkirk or later the Red Ball Express during an online war scenario. I can't imagine many guys who are into armor "investing" in CoD with the idea it might someday feature fully functional tanks either. I hope not too many resources get dumped into what looks like a novel feature in a flight sim.

The video looks good. Hope the patch does what so many are hoping for.

[Tigertooo]

Originally Posted by No145_Bunny

Well,

this is a worry. I applaud the ability to make CLoD more appealing to more people who want to use vehicles and flak positions in such a way.
However,
The success of the original IL2 series was built on multiplayer Squadrons and on-line play using coops. The developers MUST fix/improve the multiplayer aspect of CLoD so that the VERY MANY SQUADRONS out there can invest their money and time into the product that should be the "next" IL2.

I am a member of a Squadron of 40+ players that all fly the original IL2, we want to purchase CLoD and use it BUT WE CANT BECAUSE MULTIPLAYER IS UNUSABLE!! Please work out how much money IC is losing in just this circumstance!

And yet we are presented with new features so we are able to drive vehicles, brilliant, but we still cant fly in the flight simulator that we want to.

Your best stream of revenue must surely come from on-line Squadrons ? Shouldnt this take priority instead of vehicles I can drive around in whilst what I really want to do is fly a coop with 20+ Squadron members over the channel in the Battle of Britain ?

Sorry to sound full of despair......... but I am

No145_Bunny
Tangmere Pilots

www.tangmerepilots.co.uk

I agree Bunny

[furbs]

Ive been saying COOPs are badly needed since the release but it seems to fall on deaf ears.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Just think, Once people start driving their Wirbelwinds onto opposing airfields, nobody will ever complain about Vulchers again!!!!!!

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Just think, Once people start driving their Wirbelwinds onto opposing airfields, nobody will ever complain about Vulchers again!!!!!!

Probably won't happen.

Most Tank/armor/infantry game players are used to maps that are postage stamp sized by comparison to flight sim sized maps.

It would take hours at the speed of a WW2 tank to get from the "front" to an opposing airfield, and that's with no interdiction by enemy aircraft. Also remember that the Wirbelwind for Clod will have a realistic rate of fire and accuracy. It won't be the death star it is in IL2.

There is/was a mod for IL2 that allowed you to drive a Jeep or Kubelwagen. Ever tried it? Start at a base on the Kuban and see how long it takes to get from one end to the other.

[Al Schlageter]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Just think, Once people start driving their Wirbelwinds onto opposing airfields, nobody will ever complain about Vulchers again!!!!!!

Will have to wait for some 1944 scenarios for that to happen.