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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 02-14-2012, 12:10 PM
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The cost is irrelevant, what is relevant is that excepting the Russian's, we all knew the state it was in upon release and yet still chose to purchase it. If you did no research into it's condition then more fool you. The anger displayed here is absolutely typical of people who will not accept any responsibility for their own actions and thus are always looking off load the blame onto somebody or something else.

Either the money is worth something to you in which case you damn well should have checked the condition of it before purchase or it's not worth anything to you in which case you're not whining. It's not like the issues started appearing days or weeks after launch, they were immediate and well publicised.


No one forced you into your purchase.
An unthinking opinion. Most of us pre-ordered it expecting a relatively finished product. I'd say peoples' expectations were for a playable game that needed polishing - similar to the original IL2. How that transfers into not taking responsibility etc I really don't know.

It's like anything you'll ever buy. If your expectations are reasonable and the product/service doesn't match those expectations, then complain away.

If you're responsible for that product/service then public relations is absolutely critical and that is in my opinion where the whole thing has fallen apart.

Personally I am very glad that updates have resumed even if the information is not provided direct but via Black6. It gives us hope.

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Old 02-14-2012, 12:20 PM
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some peole got exactly that....a playable game that needs polishing, theres no statistics on how many got what level of playable but for some unknown reason a certain number feel what they have experienced is far more important than everybody else has, they should just be facing the fact they were the 'unlucky' ones and taking it like grown ups.
the devs are working on it, yes it's taking some time.
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Old 02-14-2012, 12:25 PM
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some peole got exactly that....a playable game that needs polishing, theres no statistics on how many got what level of playable but for some unknown reason a certain number feel what they have experienced is far more important than everybody else has, they should just be facing the fact they were the 'unlucky' ones and taking it like grown ups.
the devs are working on it, yes it's taking some time.
Too many "unluckies" owning rig like mine....If your a lucky camper good for you...just dont pope...fingers crossed for the update
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Old 02-14-2012, 12:30 PM
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Well, I can wait for the patch. Gives AMD some time to work on the drivers too for 7900-series So far the card runs CoD very nicely, better than the 6900-series did. This friday's update should bring something new again..so we will see

Until then have time to play other games, flight simming is not anymore everthing for me..even tanks can be fun!
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Old 02-14-2012, 12:35 PM
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Too many "unluckies" owning rig like mine....If your a lucky camper good for you...just dont pope...fingers crossed for the update
It is strange that my rig seems a bit less powerfull but I am in the 'lucky' camp, all I can say is the game was unplayable for me on release but the patches improved things, this gives me hope the devs know what they are dealing with, my main prospect to look forward to is what 'Laurel and Hardy' will be able to say when it's fixed.
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Old 02-14-2012, 01:14 PM
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It is strange that my rig seems a bit less powerfull but I am in the 'lucky' camp, all I can say is the game was unplayable for me on release but the patches improved things, this gives me hope the devs know what they are dealing with, my main prospect to look forward to is what 'Laurel and Hardy' will be able to say when it's fixed.
Ah I also noticed big improvement after few last patches. Maybe you are more tolerable performance wise....you dont have big slowdowns when looking at dust (lets say on takeoff), when fire is near, and sometimes ,when more planes are on the deck??? Otherwise is pretty smooth for me specialy if Im on Islands map....channel map is bigger and more demanding..
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Old 02-14-2012, 12:40 PM
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An unthinking opinion. Most of us pre-ordered it expecting a relatively finished product. I'd say peoples' expectations were for a playable game that needed polishing - similar to the original IL2. How that transfers into not taking responsibility etc I really don't know.

It's like anything you'll ever buy. If your expectations are reasonable and the product/service doesn't match those expectations, then complain away.

If you're responsible for that product/service then public relations is absolutely critical and that is in my opinion where the whole thing has fallen apart.

Personally I am very glad that updates have resumed even if the information is not provided direct but via Black6. It gives us hope.

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You know you can cancel preorders right? Unthinking, lmao. Utter tripe. Sorry, was somebody else in control of your wallet?
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Old 02-14-2012, 12:56 PM
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You know you can cancel preorders right? Unthinking, lmao. Utter tripe. Sorry, was somebody else in control of your wallet?

And why would you cancel a pre-order when you don't know what the product is like until you receive it? I don't speak Russian so could not access their forums, and there wasn't enough information available on these forums to allow anyone to make a decision one way or the other.

Your point really doesn't hold up, does it?

Over and out.

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Old 02-14-2012, 01:01 PM
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i've said it before. i ahd to buy it at release date it was a risk i ahd to take, the game want going to last 2 days in stores, and it wouldnt be replaced one it was gone.


and i was right, 2 games showed up in lisbon that ive saught ( believe me i went to a LOT of stores) and dissapeared in a matter of days, and never were sawn again.

if i knew that 8 months later i wouldnt have played it nice still, probably woulnt bought it. but i didnt
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Old 02-15-2012, 12:38 AM
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And why would you cancel a pre-order when you don't know what the product is like until you receive it? I don't speak Russian so could not access their forums, and there wasn't enough information available on these forums to allow anyone to make a decision one way or the other.

Your point really doesn't hold up, does it?

Over and out.

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There was plenty enough information here and at SimHQ to know it was in a state, you didn't need to read or visit Russian forums, my point holds up perfectly well.
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