Is there a quick solution to add more buttons?

[Sokol1]

My trials with HIDMACROS and a second USB keybord:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...7&postcount=21

Work fine in IL-2 1946, but have a strange behavior in CloD.

Sokol1

[JG52Uther]

Thanks Sokol, I missed this thread first time round so have merged them now! The HIDMACRO would be ideal, but seems to have issues with CoD.
The Nostromo looks like a 'lazy mans' way of doing what I want, or even the LOGITECH G13 as I mainly want to use it for bomb controls.

[flyingblind]

I use an earlier version of the Belkin keypad and quite like it. With 4 modes and using modifier keys you can get well over a hundred commands plus it dosen't feel as keyboardy as a keyboard. Because it generates keystrokes you can use it for TS and TrackIR as well as game controls.

[kestrel79]

You can buy a button box like I did last week. Derekspearsdesigns.com

It's designed for sim racing mainly but I'm finding it works even better for Clod with so many different buttons.

Check out mine in the "Throttle Quadrants" thread I posted a picture of my Obutto Cockpit.

[SEE]

I think CLoD has a problem with interpreting Keystrokes. It may be peculiar to Saiteks SST software but If I assign a button with M to toggle the Map and Shift + M to another button to toggle mirrors - CloD fails to differentiate and I get the Map and the Mirrors toggling when I press the Shift + M button on my X52 - sometimes the button assignments work but, after a short while in game, it starts to misbehave.

In the end I created keyboard game files to suit what type of ac I was flying and deleted every command that was unecessary. This allowed me to only assign single keystrokes without Ctrl or Shift , etc. So for multi engined ac I have a different file than for fighters. If I want to use FMB then I load the file for FMB shortcut commands.

[kestrel79]

I'm having the same problems. I don't think it's SST issue as this never happened to me in IL2 46 and my joystick profiles are very similar.

[ramstein]

(correction, not saitek, but realistic sims in general, more realiastic, means more controls,,,), which makes adding more controls with sticks like Saitek has been going crazy with every flight sim that has more and more complicated controls... it seems that for simple flight sims,, it worls best, and as the complication of commands grow, Saitek gets screwy... with more problems..

A-10C was the straw that broke the back.. it relaly pushed Saitek SST programming over the edge with complication that the stick and software seem to lose the ability to finction properly..

My X52 Pro was uanble to handle A-10C, in game cotnrols... and so I had no choice but to go with the SST software commands.. I needed more controls, no matter what.. in IL-2 CLOD< I got away with in game controls and some SST controls..

IL-2 1946 is SST controls

note: I also fly Black Shark... and other flight sims..

The sticks from Saitek wear after about 3 years use and start having problems, with parts breaking easier, with cheap plastic..

I have been using Saitek for more than 10 years..

if Saitek had only put a little more quality in, a couple pennies more plastic for strength, a few more pennies for more quality parts..

They are good, but me, not a very strong person must still take care to avoid breaking Saitek sticks and pedals, as the plastic is on the cheap side, and the knobs, sliders, pots, etc, start spiking and breaking in only a few short years with average use..

Thye are not the best, but not the worse, but it just frustrates me, that they held back on qaulity, when just a few more pennies could have made them a whole bunch better.

IMHO

[ramstein]

Originally Posted by SEE

I think CLoD has a problem with interpreting Keystrokes. It may be peculiar to Saiteks SST software but If I assign a button with M to toggle the Map and Shift + M to another button to toggle mirrors - CloD fails to differentiate and I get the Map and the Mirrors toggling when I press the Shift + M button on my X52 - sometimes the button assignments work but, after a short while in game, it starts to misbehave.

In the end I created keyboard game files to suit what type of ac I was flying and deleted every command that was unecessary. This allowed me to only assign single keystrokes without Ctrl or Shift , etc. So for multi engined ac I have a different file than for fighters. If I want to use FMB then I load the file for FMB shortcut commands.

I think the timing sometimes, there is a timing issue, and maybe lag, and sometimes keystrokes get combines wrong, because they get hung up and they soemtimes get dumped itn eh wrong order, or too fast, too slow causing bad results when the keys get pressed.. amybe if there is not enough memory avaiblable, the computer gets laggy and the commands come out in one string intead of in a broken sequence of key presses...
I don't know, but just thinking... if this happens, one can get al kinds of bogus commands.. and even reboots ctd's, etc..

[335th_GRAthos]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

I mainly want to use it for bomb controls.

I had exactly the same requirement,

The complicated mini keyboard-joysticks from Logitek did not help me because I did not have enough space to write comments about the bombsight functions on the keys
...and I was too lazy to play engineer and create my own joystick button box
Besides, I did not want to spend too much effort to create one rigid setup (button box) which would have been diffcult to adapt for later requirements.

The solution that worked for me was touchbuddy.
http://www.touch-buddy.com/forums/

This is my basic setup for bomb controls:


I use it, loaded with some more options, besides my CoD window because I have 3840x1024 desktop thus enough space as long as the 3Render view is not working in CoD


In your case I presume the best way is to connect a second monitor and place it there
I do not think it will cause a drop in fps but would be keen to hear the result if you ever test it.
Remember: You need to change one line in conf.ini in order to allow the free flow of the mouse between the CoD window and the Touchbuddy window:
in the [rts] section. Change "mouseUse=2" to "mouseUse=1"

This is the cheapest way to make a versatile, easy to remember extra buttons setup.

You can also make extremely complicated touchscreens:



A higher investment would require to buy a touchscreen screen, you can then control the buttons with your fingers!
Excellent solution, very immersive and very flexible!


~S~

[JG52Uther]

Will certainly consider trying that GRAthos, as I have a spare monitor doing nothing.