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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 02-13-2012, 01:54 PM
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Regarding CLOD as I predicted some time ago the game is effectively dead, with no plans to add any more aircraft, no dynamic campaign or weather all we can hope for is a fix to finally make the game work without crashing. Maybe if the devs are feeling generous the FM and DM's will get a makeover but other than that the game is finished, to me Luthier as made it quite clear the future is BOM. CLOD was just a way to finance BOM.

I fear you are right, but hope you are wrong. This update left me feeling they have moved on. Hope I'm wrong. If you are right they've lost me as a customer for good. There is no way I would trust a company that takes your money and doesn't finish their work (especially as unfinished as CoD is). Not in my home or online.

Only a sucker would buy BoM if CoD doesn't get fixed.
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I fear you are right, but hope you are wrong. This update left me feeling they have moved on. Hope I'm wrong. If you are right they've lost me as a customer for good. There is no way I would trust a company that takes your money and doesn't finish their work (especially as unfinished as CoD is). Not in my home or online.

Only a sucker would buy BoM if CoD doesn't get fixed.
Their decisions, their mistakes, their (possibile) bankrupt (although, russian sim "market" is big, *wink* *wink*)....btw, BOB theatre is well covered now with most (important) planes available (who participated in the BOB battle)...as onliner I dont care about offline campaigns but I feel your bitter....I hope they will optmise the graphics and to fine tune the FM and DM.
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Old 02-13-2012, 02:29 PM
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Only a sucker would buy BoM if CoD doesn't get fixed.
Wait - your'e calling me a sucker? What!

Seriously - let's face the fact that the project got too long, they restarted it too many times and then the people funding it forced it out on the market a year before the developers where ready... So what do we as the small simulation community earn by "punishing" the team for that? Sure, they have probably made a lot of bad decisions to end up with a half finished product when the publisher pulled the blanket - but really, I spent $50 yesterday buying iRacing just to try it. That kind of money is not the end of the world, it it? It would be another thing if my new Audi would just break down and Audi said: "Sorry, we where forced to release it before it was done...". In this case let's be a bit forgiving with the poor sods over there in Russia working their asses of to continue delivering WWII simulators. How many others are there?
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but really, I spent $50 yesterday buying iRacing just to try it. That kind of money is not the end of the world, it it?
Says the guy who lives in a rich country. ROFL. 50 bucks for some is like 500 for you, mate. Wake up. And no, its surely not the end of the world. But If you ask me its not the money. Its the game. I want to play it without performance issues. Hopefully I will, after next update.

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I love these "the machine is underpowered" seances. .

Rumors not have to be true. They must be precise.

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Says the guy who lives in a rich country. ROFL. 50 bucks for some is like 500 for you, mate. Wake up. And no, its surely not the end of the world. But If you ask me its not the money. Its the game. I want to play it without performance issues. Hopefully I will, after next update.

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Well, that GPU you have costs the same as 60 copies of CloD so...

Anyway - I agree that I could have chosen my words a bit better - but do you agree on the rest of my post?
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Well, that GPU you have costs the same as 60 copies of CloD so...

Anyway - I agree that I could have chosen my words a bit better - but do you agree on the rest of my post?
I for one agree 100%

Your post, like others wrt the cost of the software (game) relative to the hardware puts it into perspective

And your example only touches on the GPU..

Less not forget the PC itself.. An easy $1000.00+, nor should we forget about all the 'other' items people spend their money on.. Like $150 TrackIR, $300 Joystick; Rudders; Throttle, $200 speakers, etc.. etc..

And of all those expenses the game is the least expensive!

So I always get a good laugh at the people with the $2500+ plus list of hardware in their sig complaining about the $50 game as if their kids are now going to have to go hungry because their 'investment' in their game purchase didn't provide the returns they were expecting.. It just does not ring true!

Flight simming is an expensive 'hobby'! Which requires cutting edge hardware! Allways has been allways will be!
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:43 PM
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I for one agree 100%

Your post, like others wrt the cost of the software (game) relative to the hardware puts it into perspective

And your example only touches on the GPU..

Less not forget the PC itself.. An easy $1000.00+, nor should we forget about all the 'other' items people spend their money on.. Like $150 TrackIR, $300 Joystick; Rudders; Throttle, $200 speakers, etc.. etc..

And of all those expenses the game is the least expensive!

So I always get a good laugh at the people with the $2500+ plus list of hardware in their sig complaining about the $50 game as if their kids are now going to have to go hungry because their 'investment' in their game purchase didn't provide the returns they were expecting.. It just does not ring true!

Flight simming is an expensive 'hobby'! Which requires cutting edge hardware! Allways has been allways will be!
I agree 100%, but another perspective might be that sim enthusiasts invest that amount of money because they want to play the particular flight sim. If there was no interest in CoD/IL2/BoB:WoV/RoF/Black Shark et al, there wouldn't be purchases toward higher end systems.

It's not like someone went out and spent $2,500.00 on a PC and then went out to find a game to play on it. People have always been upgrading PCs for particular games and interests. Since Id software creating Wolfenstein people have upgraded to play at the highest resolutions and smoothness.

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Old 02-14-2012, 07:47 AM
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Seriously - how about a patch that fixes the AI?

Nothing else - just the AI? surely they don't need programmers to fix that?

Sick of seeing Sunderlands doing barrel rolls.
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