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Old 03-31-2008, 10:45 PM
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I'm sorry, but yes I can know whose fault it is. 1C:Maddox Games did not do the box art. UbiSoft did.
But you don't know if the box art was or wasn't the reason for NGC to sue Ubisoft and M:1C
... this is just a guess... so you KNOW nothing (same for everybody there)
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Old 03-31-2008, 11:12 PM
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Even if 1C made the box art, as the distributor, Ubi should have run it past a lawyer. Period. THEIR name is on it, and you can be damn sure they would have had a problem without the proper protections on THEIR name.

The buck stops with Ubi, IMO. They are the ones doing the marketing (LOL, that's another issue altogether) and the selling. It's pitched as an Ubisoft product.

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Old 04-01-2008, 12:12 AM
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I highly doubt anyone at Ubisoft knows what an Aichi, Grumman or Vought is. They had to get that info from 1C. Look at the trademarks etc. listed at the back of PF and nobody thought of the right of these companies?

I work with product packaging all the time and it goes through many eyes and departments-it's not as if one guy didn't know the law and screwed up.

Include a commercial intro from the companies in question in the DVD or small pamphlet and set a positive precedent from this situation. These are "game" designers after all and I would like to see some thought out of the box.
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Old 04-01-2008, 03:50 AM
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I'm starting to wounder if Micro$oft had anything to do with this because of their slump in sales with CFS series?
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Old 04-01-2008, 12:12 PM
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I think cultural differences should be in taken into account as well. Oleg and 1C maddox had enormous open arms help and assistance from russian aircraft/defense industries. This is partly why the russian planes have very good modeling (FM and DM and 3d modeling) in this game.


This is very different when dealing with american aircraft/defense companies. Instead of giving blueprints and other data, american companies wanted money.

I don't think 1C and UBI fully udnerstood the american nature specially when it comes to proprietary trademark and copyright issues specially not knowing that Fairchild Republic,Vought and other old Long Island-based aircraft manufacturers were merged or absorbed by Grumman Corporation which merged with Northrop years ago.

And yes Ubi paid NGC more than the development costs for Il-2 which 1C was the one to suffer hence minimal incentive for delevoping the Il-2 series further.
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