Friday Update, February 10, 2012

[Al Schlageter]

Originally Posted by Ribbs67

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that one of the United States's early contributions to the war effort.. supplying the RAF with 100 octane fuel... thought I heard that in a documentary...

Would that have been on the History Channel? Take with a large pinch of salt.

Some reading for you Ribbs.
http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/tec...bob-16305.html
http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/avi...2-a-20108.html

[khaAk]

The E4 series had 100 octane gasoline
From Wikipedia
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Bf_109

Bf 109E-4 fighter aircraft, engine such as E-1, new cockpit cover as standard, armament 2×7.92× -mm gun, two 20mm MGFF/M in the wings

Bf 109E-4/B fighter-bombers, engine such as E-1/B; weapons such as E-4, up to 250 kg bomb load

Bf 109 E-4/Trop: fighter and fighter-bombers, such as E-4, with additional features tropics (sand filter, auxiliary equipment)

Bf 109E-4/N: fighter, such as E-4, but DB 601N engine with 1020 PS, higher compression, 100-octane gasoline-C3

Bf 109 E-4/BN: fighter-bombers, engine and armament as E-4/N, up to 250 kg bomb load

If you want gasoline octane 100
I want a BF109E4/N(BN)

Who cares about fuel. Geez , this is why it takes a milliion years to get anything finished around this joint.

[klem]

Originally Posted by khaAk

The E4 series had 100 octane gasoline
From Wikipedia
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Bf_109

Bf 109E-4 fighter aircraft, engine such as E-1, new cockpit cover as standard, armament 2×7.92× -mm gun, two 20mm MGFF/M in the wings

Bf 109E-4/B fighter-bombers, engine such as E-1/B; weapons such as E-4, up to 250 kg bomb load

Bf 109 E-4/Trop: fighter and fighter-bombers, such as E-4, with additional features tropics (sand filter, auxiliary equipment)

Bf 109E-4/N: fighter, such as E-4, but DB 601N engine with 1020 PS, higher compression, 100-octane gasoline-C3

Bf 109 E-4/BN: fighter-bombers, engine and armament as E-4/N, up to 250 kg bomb load

If you want gasoline octane 100
I want a BF109E4/N(BN)

According to Wikepedia :-
"Bf 109 E-4/BN - drive catered DB 601 N engine power of 1175 hp. It was necessary to use stooktanové (?) fuel. Made 35 pieces. "

Which one of the 35 they built would you like?

[Ribbs67]

Originally Posted by Al Schlageter

Would that have been on the History Channel? Take with a large pinch of salt.

Some reading for you Ribbs.
http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/tec...bob-16305.html
http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/avi...2-a-20108.html

Looks like you didn't read the article yourself....

This implies (by the OP)that... yes the United States was shipping 100 octane fuel to Britain. I just implied that the US was shipping it to them not that we were the only supplier. I'm sure the History channel did their homework also... Oh wait isn't everything that we read on the internet true??



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7th Meeting of the Oil Committee 18th May 1940

This you will have seen before but I add it for completion. The use of the Fuel has been made clear to Fighter Command and the distribution of the fuel has gone well.

What is interesting is what isn't in the file and its a big file. At no stage is any concern expressed about any shortage of 100 Octane Fuel the level of stocks or any lack of supply. There was never any mention of capping distribution or shipping stocks from one station to another or sector.

There was concern that the USA might embargo the shipping of 100 Octane Fuel but other sources of fuel had been identified and as a back up 35,000 tons of 100 Octane was to be produced in the UK to see if we could supply it from our own resources. This was done but the plant (Billingham) went back to the processing of 87 Octane when the test was completed. Cost was the reason, it was more expensive to produce 100 Octane in the UK.

Cost was a theme in all discussions even to the point where the committee was deciding if a team of workers at one refinery should be paid a weeks overtime. I wish our current leaders were as keen to save money.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by Ribbs67

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that one of the United States's early contributions to the war effort.. supplying the RAF with 100 octane fuel... thought I heard that in a documentary...

IIRC the Shell refinery in Manama produced the 100 octane, benzene rich gasoline. Tankers would then bring it past South Africa to Britain.

[Brainless]

I think that new graphics engine will not look very different from older. It will be (I hope) more smooth (less stutters), with better frame rate, and without memory leaks.