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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 01-27-2012, 09:30 AM
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Krupi for GOd sake your working for 1C now? hehe hillarious.....they should hire you
No I am a design engineer and use CAD and therefore can appreciate the length of time it takes to generate a highly detailed model.

Anyone recognise the usual rotten apples!!
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Where was a year mentioned? Ah yes nowhere they said a few months.

Sorry mods please remove my posts, I shouldn't get wound up by the usual brainless dorks that have no clue
man, did you actually read the first post?

Things are not the same today. A single plane model can take a year of work or more! Complex tasks such as changes to AI or flight model take many months of coding and testing. The industry reached this strange stage where the end result does not seem to match the amount of time that went into it. If you compare a late-year 1946 plane with a CoD aircraft, it’s hard to believe that one took a month and the other a year to make. Does it really look 12 times better?

If you drew a diagram of time spent on task vs perceived quality, the curve would be very, very sharp.

It is what it is. It takes a huge amount of time to rise above the bar set by the original Il-2. The illusion of time spent vs quality delivered affects not only the layman but us professional developers as well. We’ve underestimated the amount of time it could take to “do better” quite a few times. We could do it exactly like in Il-2 in a month. But we don’t want to do it like in IL-2. We want to do better. And to reach the next qualitative level you need to spend significantly more time. In some cases, a year instead of a month, or even worse.
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Old 01-27-2012, 09:56 AM
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Also if CoD is so crap why are the RoF and CoD multiplayer numbers so comparable both game have around 50 ppl playing them.. Now I can understand why CoD has low numbers but then surely if RoF is soo much better it should have more ppl online...
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Also if CoD is so crap why are the RoF and CoD multiplayer numbers so comparable both game have around 50 ppl playing them.. Now I can understand why CoD has low numbers but then surely if RoF is soo much better it should have more ppl online...

Rof's single player experience is outstanding.
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:00 AM
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Rof's single player experience is outstanding.
Agreed, head and shoulders above cod
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Thumbs up thanks for the update, ...

... nice Rata !
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Old 01-27-2012, 09:57 AM
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Thanks for the update BlackSix and Ilya!

All the best, and please don't be discouraged by the droves of whiners
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:14 AM
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Thank you Black Six, Luthier, and everyone at 1C.

For a very informative update. It is a unfortunate (but necessary) to have to explain why things take as long as they do. It is also unfortunate that even when presented with a reasonable explanation, certain people will simply deny it.

Kudos for maintaining communications under these unfortunate conditions.

That I-16 looks amazing, almost as complex as the real warbird. I have 3Dmax 2010 but in 2 years have yet to learn how to use it for more than making small edits to pre-existing models.

To all those folks who believe they know better - stop comparing apples to oranges and put your money where your mouth is; I shall wait patiently for your offering upon the altar of cutting edge simulation software.

Regards, Sam.
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:15 AM
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A while since I've been here. That I-16 takes me back to my IL2 days, looks good and makes me wanna jump in right away. Hope to play COD and sequel one time when I have enough bucks again (hard work, no profits).
Reading this forum: nothing has changed as to flaming the devs... sad.

Anyway Blacksix and Luthier and team: Thanks and keep it going, I admire your work!
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did they say that?
The link does not work any more but I have quotes from that thread here http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...postcount=1131

Jason says that all the malcontents and whiners did too much damage to their project. And I know that they moderate their forums much more strictly than 1C.
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