Battle for Moscow

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

All that im waiting for is the fix for the CTD, before that I was waiting for the multi-player sound fix, the game as never been playable for me without a major problem. When the CTD is fixed maybe I cant start to sing its praises but its going to have to be amazing to justify the long wait pre-release and then the fix post release. I have never in 20 years of gaming ever purchased a product that was so bad out of the box in terms of bugs and completely unfinished features.

While you wait Tree. I know you build and have built a top end system to fly. Could you humor me and install COD and your flight peripherals on a separate SSD with its own Windows 7 64bit OS. You might not want to spend another dollar on COD, but I never have CTD's with this setup. The only draw back is you have to reboot to that particular OS when you want to fly COD, but the reboot is very quick, and the sim load times are awesome.

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

I have never in 20 years of gaming ever purchased a product that was so bad out of the box in terms of bugs and completely unfinished features.

Me too.


Probably get banned for replying to that lol

[Dano]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

I have never in 20 years of gaming ever purchased a product that was so bad out of the box in terms of bugs and completely unfinished features.

Nor me, but my brother did, some role playing game back in the windows 98 days which was so bad he uninstalled it and it wiped out a load of critical windows files at the same time and left him with an unworkable machine

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Hood

This thread isn't about any of the CloD problems - we all know what these are. It's about rebuilding the fan base/developer relationship and BoM providing a great opportunity to do so. You could even do this with CloD if the will to do so is there.

Hood

Unfortunately the animosity has gone both ways, between the developer and community in the past few years. The biggest problem is some in the community not understanding the difference between what the developer is trying to achieve and a promise in past updates. Now the developers have to be very careful on how they word every statement, but that doesn't work either, when they state there is no promise with this particular features, its ALWAYS thrown back in their face as a PROMISE later.

A week goes by very slowly for the community, but its a nanosecond for the developer. A bi-weekly update might work, but I just as soon they wait until they had something worth reporting.

Hopefully in the next year the game engine will be optimized and it will be more just a matter of adding content, rather than a Keystone Cop's fire drill.

[addman]

Hey Tree! You need to put your money where you mouth is. I actually sold my gaming rig last week because I wasn't playing CloD anymore (play all other games on my Xbox360, Wii or PSP). Figured I'd sell it while it was still worth something. I'm gonna build myself a mini-itx PC just for the heck of it and because it consumes about as much electricity as a 60 watt light bulb on full load. Back to Clod though, I'll still be around the boards and wait for Battle of Moscow to see how it will work out. To everyone else, you don't have to hear my "complaints" anymore since I don't even play the game, I guess those of you glass "half-full" people should be happy about this. Still be flying IL-2 though, especially now when the Pe-8 is flyable, hellz yeah!

P.S Kept the Samsung SSD for my soon to be mini PC

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Chivas

A week goes by very slowly for the community, but its a nanosecond for the developer. A bi-weekly update might work, but I just as soon they wait until they had something worth reporting.

Not for me it doesn`t. A week is just a week. 9 months passed by like nothing for me. Still waiting with optimism. I come here check every week, nothing. Cool. Back doing other stuff.

That said, I don`t think that if we are to get some major updates, those would be in BoM if it is ready in 2013. Either BoM comes out in a few months with all the vital updates for CloD or we get those updates earlier for CloD only. If not, well then what can I do about it.I got a job that`s made of dealines too, lots of them. And I can tell you dealines are something of the devil. You always run out of time to do it 100% right. That is how I see 1C struggling and that is why I have understanding for them. CloD shows the very same love for sims as ye olde IL2 and Luthier is one of the people that sustains this love, the attention to detail and realism. Right now I`m having some trouble understanding their priorities but I bet that is caused by not knowing what we aren`t allowed to know as customers.

[Bewolf]

I am not so pessimistic about those Updates. What I see coming is all the urgent Updates for CoD coming within the next months, at least everything basic required to make CoD a fun past time then it already is. BoM then will include a rework of the GUI, probably the new weather system, maybe a Dynamic Campaign, reworked Map Editor, stuff like this.

Purely speculative, but that is how I would approach the issue if I were in Maddox games situation. Get everything essential right and add the goodies later.

As a comsumer planning to get each new IL2 title that is an approach I can perfectly live with. However, I can see the dissapointment for those that only are intersted in the Battle of Britian. Then again, everybody how knows the history of IL2, and the controversy surrounding some Title upgrades, especially Pacific Fighters, knows that Maddox Fames never did a good job in the representation of a single theatre. It was the complete package that made IL2 what it eventually became, and that was far from obvious with initial the IL2 release. Il2 was also a hugely less complex sim then CoD now is.

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Chivas

A week goes by very slowly for the community, but its a nanosecond for the developer. A bi-weekly update might work, but I just as soon they wait until they had something worth reporting.

Agreed. And I love the way you step around the magic "two weeks" by saying bi-weekly

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by mazex

Agreed. And I love the way you step around the magic "two weeks" by saying bi-weekly

Be sure.



Sorry, but it had to be said.



At this point I am no longer playing CloD, but I'm not whining about it. I have faith it will be sorted out and when that happens I'll start flying again.

Life is just too short to get wound up about something as petty as a piece of entertainment software.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

Dear friend, I was there in 2001. When IL2 came out. Its not the same team. Its not the same man in charge. Different times....nuff said.

The same is true of North Korea.......point is many institutions go through a change of leadership but the institutions remain the same.