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Old 01-14-2012, 05:33 PM
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But those convoys weren't bringing Spitfires, Hurricanes or even Merlins, so what exact American supplies were used in the early part of the war by the Brits?
Now I just did spend some time with internet research about finding some information what kind of stuff those convoys brought in, only found the canadian ones, and those include iron ore, crude oil, alloys, fuel and lub oil. Given the situation in the Atlantic, the fact that Britian was down to two weeks of provisions in 41 due to the U-Boat threat and highly vulnerable to import ruptures in general, I dare say american involvement both in regards to Land Lease and ressources in keeping up aircraft production and operation was vital at that point already.
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Old 01-14-2012, 05:44 PM
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Now I just did spend some time with internet research about finding some information what kind of stuff those convoys brought in, only found the canadian ones, and those include iron ore, crude oil, alloys, fuel and lub oil. Given the situation in the Atlantic, the fact that Britian was down to two weeks of provisions in 41 due to the U-Boat threat and highly vulnerable to import ruptures in general, I dare say american involvement both in regards to Land Lease and ressources in keeping up aircraft production and operation was vital at that point already.
and here lies another very important aspect of the Brits performance during the early conflict, those supply ships were being sunk at an alrming rate initially, but the Brits managed to take control of that situation too without the Americans direct involvement, it's all good and well claiming the Brits wouldn't have achieved anything without US support, being an island nation there was little choice but to have supplies imported from a friendly nation, at the time the US was under no obligations and could have pulled support at any time, if it wasn't for the sucesses of the British they would have....for obvious reasons.
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Old 01-14-2012, 05:54 PM
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and here lies another very important aspect of the Brits performance during the early conflict, those supply ships were being sunk at an alrming rate initially, but the Brits managed to take control of that situation too without the Americans direct involvement, it's all good and well claiming the Brits wouldn't have achieved anything without US support, being an island nation there was little choice but to have supplies imported from a friendly nation, at the time the US was under no obligations and could have pulled support at any time, if it wasn't for the sucesses of the British they would have....for obvious reasons.
Nobody talks about "direct" involvement, though, or denies the obvious achievements of the british in this time period.
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Old 01-14-2012, 06:06 PM
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No there really are some people saying the Brits achievements paled compared to the Americans floating some petrol our way.
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Old 01-14-2012, 06:15 PM
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Well they were not giving it away either..........business is business.



Anyway back to the YT clip, I hope this sim/game continues without "balancing" .





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Old 01-14-2012, 06:29 PM
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Anyway back to the YT clip, I hope this sim/game continues without "balancing".
Particularly if it's James Holland's idea of 'balancing', for sure.
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Old 01-14-2012, 06:32 PM
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What's he balancing ?

I was more listening to the people in the clip who took part in BoB and flew.

Not the presenter.
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Old 01-14-2012, 06:36 PM
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Particularly if it's James Holland's idea of 'balancing', for sure.
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Anyway back to black pudding, its delicous!
I believe its a true testament to the worship of Swine to not only consume their flesh but blood. Its only right we use the whole animal!

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Old 01-14-2012, 06:25 PM
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No there really are some people saying the Brits achievements paled compared to the Americans floating some petrol our way.
From an .....impartial*coughcough* position, the Russians, the British and the Americans all want to lay claim on certain achievements they only really realized by working together. None alone would have come as far as they did without the others.
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