Thoughts ?

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Blitzpig,what you're saying about industrial dispersion is right, but defining the 1940s RAF as a "mature organisation" is laughable: they operated a fleet that had been developed in WW1 times and operated on such standards,whilst the Luftwaffe had the precious advantage of the Spain Civil War,which created a lot of "experten",brought modifications to the aircraft and above all helped developing effective tactics. It took the RAF quite some time to catch up,and it wouldn't have gone far,hadn't the Americans intervened in '41.

I'm not talking tactics here.

Tacitics are for n00bs in any discussion of campaigns.

The RAF was better organised as an air force, they were better led, and had better logistical support, and as we all know, logistics wins wars, not single engagement tactics.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

I'm not talking tactics here.

Tacitics are for n00bs in any discussion of campaigns.

The RAF was better organised as an air force, they were better led, and had better logistical support, and as we all know, logistics wins wars, not single engagement tactics.

are you sure about this?
Germany learned a lot about organisation and operating abroad thanks to the Spanish Civil War, Great Britain was fighting on its own soil, and that's a HUGE advantage. I can agree about the fact that the Luftwaffe had a worse leadership, but to saying it was less organised is ridiculous. Once again, let's not forget they were operating from a foreign country, with all the possible logistics strains, and still managed to bring Great Britain to the brink of collapse with their bombing campaign.
They didn't manage to overcome their opponents just because they were led by a buffoon and dispersed their offensive potential, but had all the capability to gain air superiority all the time.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

but saying it was less organised is ridiculous. they still managed to bring Great Britain to the brink of collapse with their bombing campaign.

.......Nope. I'm not going to bother.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=26290

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

Land Lease started much earlier, so did US involvement in the Atlantic.

Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch

.......Nope. I'm not going to bother.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=26290

Aaaah the comfort of denial

[bongodriver]

Thinking aloud?

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Thinking aloud?

Lol if there's one thing I've learned over the years I lived here is that trying to win an argument with a Brit is like trying to take a picture of a fart..

As per black pudding,I dont think I've ever tried it boiled.. But I know I love it fried! And white pudding too!

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Lol if there's one thing I've learned over the years I lived here is that trying to win an argument with a Brit is like trying to take a picture of a fart..

As per black pudding,I dont think I've ever tried it boiled.. But I know I love it fried! And white pudding too!

Oh dear, hes at it again...

What have us Brits actually done to you!

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Lol if there's one thing I've learned over the years I lived here is that trying to win an argument with a Brit is like trying to take a picture of a fart..

As per black pudding,I dont think I've ever tried it boiled.. But I know I love it fried! And white pudding too!

There is a trick to it......being right always helps , if a Brit wants to take a picture of a fart he set it on fire....simples.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Aaaah the comfort of denial

So, fried or boiled?

[kendo65]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch

.......Nope. I'm not going to bother.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=26290

This is the reaction of a very wise man.

Anyone thinking of commenting on anything other than black puddings and breakfasts in this thread should instead click on the link above. Set yourself a reasonable target, say 10 pages a day, and you will get through the 83 pages in a little over a week.

You will then have complete knowledge of everyone's position on this and every nuance and twist in the road that this discussion can possibly take.

This is a final warning...turn back now while you still can....