Thoughts ?

[Sternjaeger II]

Dutch,I believe you're misinterpreting what they're saying there.
Cannon rounds were a big scare among pilots and crews,and as you can tell from the pilot's memories it had a big psychological effect on them (something like the Germans being scared of the Spit and believing they had been shot down by one,even when it was a Hurricane or a Defiant!).

We always seem to forget the scare factor when it comes to war,probably cos we're used to Esc+Fly Again too much..

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

It took the RAF quite some time to catch up,and it wouldn't have gone far,hadn't the Americans intervened in '41.

That would be 1942 I believe.

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Blitzpig,what you're saying about industrial dispersion is right, but defining the 1940s RAF as a "mature organisation" is laughable: they operated a fleet that had been developed in WW1 times and operated on such standards,whilst the Luftwaffe had the precious advantage of the Spain Civil War,which created a lot of "experten",brought modifications to the aircraft and above all helped developing effective tactics. It took the RAF quite some time to catch up,and it wouldn't have gone far,hadn't the Americans intervened in '41.

I'm not talking tactics here.

Tacitics are for n00bs in any discussion of campaigns.

The RAF was better organised as an air force, they were better led, and had better logistical support, and as we all know, logistics wins wars, not single engagement tactics.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch

Biltong's almost identical to Beef Jerky if you ask me. Both recently available in the UK. Bloody expensive for what you get though. My brother reckons you may as well buy dog chews. Maybe he's right but I wouldn't like to try.

Anyway, Black Pudding is an almost global phenomenon.

Blutwurst looks pretty much the same to me.

@ El, yes, all washed down with a nice pint of Theakston's Best Bitter.

@ Stern - I'm not disputing that the 109 E4 was the better armed fighter of the Battle, merely Holland's exaggeration of the fact. Those are my 'Thoughts' after viewing the clip. And your thoughts are what exactly? Relative to the clip, I mean?

Bavarians are odd, too much austrian and bohemian influence for their own good. Coming from the Rhineland, this is a propper meal



In regards to the debate at hand, we can concentrate on aircraft performance, we can concentrate on logistics and tactics, but none of that will change the fact that once you encounter a good pilot, it really does not matter as much what plane you are sitting in. All what counts is how good you are in using your chances to actually hit when the opportunity arises.

[FFCW_Urizen]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch

Blutwurst looks pretty much the same to me.

I think it is the same, first time i tried a Blutwurst, i almost vomited it on an instant

@bongodriver: Now you did it, i´m hungry, damn, and no Wurst here

@Bewolf: Ok, i can identify Blutwurst, but what is the Rest. By the Way, real Rhinelanders prefer a good Currywurst with Pommes.
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