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Old 01-10-2012, 05:42 PM
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It's called the "big lie" Osprey.

Repeat the same misinformantion often enough, and loud enough, and it will eventually be accepted as truth.

At least on gamer forums like this.

On real historical aviation forums this kind of behavior usually results in being laughed off the forum, or an outright ban.

Right Issy?
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Old 01-10-2012, 07:44 PM
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On real historical aviation forums this kind of behavior usually results in being laughed off the forum, or an outright ban.

Right Issy?
Right. And that's is why I was never banned from a real historical aviation forum, and that is why you have been never been a member of one, or have the slightest idea how a discussion would look like between people with real interest in combat aviation and an open mind, regardless of nationality.
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Old 01-10-2012, 11:27 PM
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Right Issy?
WOW.. That brings back memories!
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Old 01-10-2012, 11:36 PM
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As long as there's a 100 octane spit mk 1 and hurri in game, i'm happy, which even the most vociferous naysayers admit were there in some numbers.

As to whether they all were or whatever, the nay sayers won't change there mind, but it will be irrelevant, and they can argue till the cows come home for all i care.

Mission builders can build as they see fit.

As long as we get the 100 octane spit and hurri.
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Old 01-11-2012, 12:04 AM
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My issue is not really about the game in this discussion- if the game developers want to even up the competition between red and blue by compromising elements that's their call. I'll still play it.
Want i dont want to see happen is people altering historical facts.

As Captain Rum said in Blackadder when challenged about not having a crew a aboard his ship:
Blackadder- 'I was under the impression that it was common maritime practice for a ship to have a crew'
Rum:- 'Opinion is divided on the subject'.
Edmund: 'Oh, really?'
Rum: 'Yes. All the other captains say it is; I say it isn't'
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Old 01-11-2012, 12:35 AM
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Want i dont want to see happen is people altering historical facts.
People have been doing that since history began.

I like you see all the evidence thats been presented to show only one thing, but there are some here that won't change there mind for whatever reason.

However, since even the most vocal naysayers admit that there was hurris and Spit mk1s using 100 octane fuel in some reasonable numbers, they need to be in the game period.

As long as the devs get that, the rest is just immaterial to me, people believe strange things, after all some people still believe the earth is flat....
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Old 01-11-2012, 12:50 AM
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There is a lot of interesting data and facts regards the octane rating and I have enjoyed reading through them, But, the simple truth is that a Rotol Spit Mk1a, as modelled, is slower than a Rotol Hurricane and the 6Ilbs of Boost does sweet FA to boot! - That's about as 'Black and White' as it gets - there is no 'grey' area in that simple observation!

Even if not completely perfect, relative performance of all the fighters is the essential fix for me (for the time being anyway....except having 6Ibs of boost working is better than no Boost)!
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:08 AM
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There is a lot of interesting data and facts regards the octane rating and I have enjoyed reading through them, But, the simple truth is that a Rotol Spit Mk1a, as modelled, is slower than a Rotol Hurricane and the 6Ilbs of Boost does sweet FA to boot! - That's about as 'Black and White' as it gets - there is no 'grey' area in that simple observation!

Even if not completely perfect, relative performance of all the fighters is the essential fix for me (for the time being anyway....except having 6Ibs of boost working is better than no Boost)!
+1 signed. I believe, along with a more smooth running game (if possible) updates and fixes to the planes on both sides of BoB, where required, are a necessity.
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Old 01-11-2012, 12:51 PM
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If we are still debating (I mean hearing each other arguments) I wld say that Spit FM need to be fixed... Then the matter of 100 or no 100 won't be such a question. [/SradfordUpAvon_Mode=OFF]

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