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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

View Poll Results: When will the next beta patch be released?
thursday!!! 1 0.74%
this friday 18 13.24%
during next week 15 11.03%
during the week after the next week 12 8.82%
in three weeks 9 6.62%
after a month 12 8.82%
two months 2 1.47%
three months 5 3.68%
this year, hopefully.. 20 14.71%
in two weeks 42 30.88%
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Old 01-04-2012, 10:43 AM
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Like I have said in a post that seems to have been deleted by the moderators, and if we don't get CoD fixed until the release of BfM with the merge, we will be expected to pay again for an unfinished sim that was released with known faults as stated by the developers (Sli was broken just prior to release and we are working to correct it, for one). Then in April they stated once again that certain things were being worked on for correction in the coming weeks (still not done). To get these things corrected in a patch prior to release of BfM does not sound likely, regardless of assurances from some moderators and others.

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That's one way of looking at it. But Luthier mentioned (in the last update I think) that certain aspects (weather primarily) of the game were going to take so long to fix anyway that any patch that brought them into CoD would be released so near in time to the sequel that it made more sense (technically and commercially I assume) to release them integrated into the new game.

I can see why people may not be totally happy or convinced by that but it seems that it is the way it will happen.

I would like to have seen things progress faster myself, but the attitude to the sequel really is a 'glass half empty' or 'half full' choice for everyone - we can either look at it as:

'if we don't get CoD fixed until the release of BfM with the merge, we will be expected to pay again for an unfinished sim that was released with known faults'

or we can look at it in terms of new aircraft, theatre, map(s) AND updated features that will be included and made applicable to CoD too - that is we're not going to be asked to pay more just to get CoD fixed, we will be getting new things for the money as well.

I'm not totally against your pov, but hopefully the next patch for CoD is going to be the one that does most to improve the game so far.
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Old 01-04-2012, 11:57 AM
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That's one way of looking at it. But Luthier mentioned (in the last update I think) that certain aspects (weather primarily) of the game were going to take so long to fix anyway that any patch that brought them into CoD would be released so near in time to the sequel that it made more sense (technically and commercially I assume) to release them integrated into the new game.

I can see why people may not be totally happy or convinced by that but it seems that it is the way it will happen.

I would like to have seen things progress faster myself, but the attitude to the sequel really is a 'glass half empty' or 'half full' choice for everyone - we can either look at it as:

'if we don't get CoD fixed until the release of BfM with the merge, we will be expected to pay again for an unfinished sim that was released with known faults'

or we can look at it in terms of new aircraft, theatre, map(s) AND updated features that will be included and made applicable to CoD too - that is we're not going to be asked to pay more just to get CoD fixed, we will be getting new things for the money as well.

I'm not totally against your pov, but hopefully the next patch for CoD is going to be the one that does most to improve the game so far.


i can't see much of a chance that i would spend any more money on any cod expanshion, but thats just me
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Lmoa I hadn't seen the second one before, thanks
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I for one won't be buying any expansion unless it can be proved that all the problems that are present with the current release are fixed. I will probably wait at least 12 mths after the release of the expansion to see what the results are by keeping an eye on posts at the forums if there are no further fixes to correct the current release. By that time the price will also have dropped just like this one has.

Reading comments from other members I'm not the only one with this idea.

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I for one won't be buying any expansion unless it can be proved that all the problems that are present with the current release are fixed. I will probably wait at least 12 mths after the release of the expansion to see what the results are by keeping an eye on posts at the forums if there are no further fixes to correct the current release. By that time the price will also have dropped just like this one has.

Reading comments from other members I'm not the only one with this idea.

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If I were you I wouldn't buy any expansions for many years, and think of the money you'll save. By then there will have been a number of features that improve COD, although it may be best to wait for the final expansion in fifteen to twenty years when it includes all the theaters. By then you could have a new computer that could run COD at 200 or 300 fps. What I'm trying to say is COD won't be finished for a very very long time, and will evolve considerably with features we've never seen before, especially when you add in user made content.
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If I were you I wouldn't buy any expansions for many years, and think of the money you'll save. By then there will have been a number of features that improve COD, although it may be best to wait for the final expansion in fifteen to twenty years when it includes all the theaters. By then you could have a new computer that could run COD at 200 or 300 fps. What I'm trying to say is COD won't be finished for a very very long time, and will evolve considerably with features we've never seen before, especially when you add in user made content.

Yes...the nerve of Rick wanting to wait and see if the expansion is worth it. He's just supposed to just throw his money at 1C because they put out a flawless product that shouldn't even be questioned. Everything Chivas listed above is just an opinion on what's going to happen, I think it's been proven with this release that everyone's opinion on what this game was going to be fell far short. I agree that it might be 15 to 20 years before Clod is running good and has all the features that were expected though, so there's that.
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i can't see much of a chance that i would spend any more money on any cod expanshion, but thats just me
You're not alone.

I'm still hoping that CloD finally gets that one patch that fixes all my issues with the sim, but I've pretty much given up hope, 9 months after release. I check back here every 1-2 weeks but I'm beginning to don't care any more.
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