Friday Update, Q&A - December 23, 2011

[ATAG_MajorBorris]

4. Are there any plans to add a new aircraft or modifications, equipment and other objects to Cliffs of Dover before the sequel?

Quote:
Only new modifications of existing planes – of which there are very few left. Completely new aircraft or flyable versions of currently non-flyable planes are not planned for CoD.
New ground or other objects will not happen due to the fact that our previous attempts to add them were met with a universal “we don’t need this crap, why don’t you give us xyz instead” from the community. The ground modeling staff and myself have subsequently made the fully switch that department to the sequel

I just love how the people who fly the least can have the most effect on sims sometimes

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by MajorBoris

4. Are there any plans to add a new aircraft or modifications, equipment and other objects to Cliffs of Dover before the sequel?

Quote:
Only new modifications of existing planes – of which there are very few left. Completely new aircraft or flyable versions of currently non-flyable planes are not planned for CoD.
New ground or other objects will not happen due to the fact that our previous attempts to add them were met with a universal “we don’t need this crap, why don’t you give us xyz instead” from the community. The ground modeling staff and myself have subsequently made the fully switch that department to the sequel

I just love how the people who fly the least can have the most effect on sims sometimes

Speaking about armchair pilots, eh?
I believe anyway that this was a note of humour by Luthier. Be it or not, the truth is that resources (money and time) are limited, and the objects to model must be prioritized vs. income potential. In other words, 3D modelers were not idle, but modeling other planes and objects for new theaters, such as BoM. And yes, given the choice, I prefer one more plane rather than 2 or 3 more tanks/ships whatever. The community will take care of that whn SDK will be released ...

[HamishUK]

Insuber:

Speaking about armchair pilots, eh?
I believe anyway that this was a note of humour by Luthier. Be it or not, the truth is that resources (money and time) are limited, and the objects to model must be prioritized vs. income potential. In other words, 3D modelers were not idle, but modeling other planes and objects for new theaters, such as BoM. And yes, given the choice, I prefer one more plane rather than 2 or 3 more tanks/ships whatever. The community will take care of that whn SDK will be released ...

The 'community' should not have to 'create' stuff to sort out 1C's issues.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by HamishUK

The 'community' should not have to 'create' stuff to sort out 1C's issues.

So what should the community do with an SDK? and why would that be sorting out 1C's issues?

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by HamishUK

The 'community' should not have to 'create' stuff to sort out 1C's issues.

LOL ... with this mentality there would not be any Daidalos Team or SAS, would it? I have friends still creating objects and content for the venerable 1946, such as the upcoming 4.12; do you think that they do it to sort out 1C issues?

[HamishUK]

Originally Posted by Insuber

LOL ... with this mentality there would not be any Daidalos Team or SAS, would it? I have friends still creating objects and content for the venerable 1946, such as the upcoming 4.12; do you think that they do it to sort out 1C issues?

There was no Daidalos when IL2 was released and we all managed without it so your point is moot.

Well part of the stuff Daidalos do is fix flight models etc and they have corrected many faulty values. They don't just create new objects. So yes in a way they have fixed a number of 1C issues!

@bongodriver. It is an expansion (albeit capable as a standalone). Just as PF was an expansion from IL2. I guess you can define expansion differently but for me it's an extension of the existing gameword...with fixes to the main game..ergo expansion.

[bongodriver]

No it's a standalone but mergeable just like Pacific Fighters.

[HamishUK]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

No it's a standalone but mergeable just like Pacific Fighters.

Which in turn was defined as a standalone expansion.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by HamishUK

There was no Daidalos when IL2 was released and we all managed without it so your point is moot.

Your point that the community should not create objects, maps or missions with the planned SDK, only because you want 1C to deal with their issues alone, is laughable and childish. Of course MG must fix the game engine and other proprietary portions, such as FM and DM. But when this game will be completely fixed it will provide a lot of room for third party add ons, free or rentable. This was the original plan of Oleg, right after the experience of Il2.

Cheers,
Ins.

[addman]

It's quite simple really, it's a stand-alone expansion which you may:

A: Merge with CloD if you have it and enjoy the content of that game together with BoM
or
B: Play it as a separate game without CloD content

If I have understood it properly.