Friday Update, Q&A - December 23, 2011

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Your totally wrong, players have been flying, missions on the IL-2 Warclouds server for years that are mission based, and not airquake. Yes at times there will be people who join the server that arn't interested in the mission, but that can happen on Co-op servers aswell. The best part is you can join the mission 24/7 with no waiting, and you don't have to worry about someone running you over at the start of the mission and having to wait hours for the next mission to start.

The ATAG server in COD is mission based, and there are people flying bombers with full human crews, on long bombing missions. The tools are there like AI use and will only get better as the bugs and features are improved and more players join the servers.

I`m sorry if you do not understand what I`m saying. You seem to be with IL2 more than a few years like me, so you should know that an online war, even a simple generic slot based online coop mission is a whole different experience than dedicated dogfight servers, however organised they may be.
The part where you talk about waiting and someone running into you at the start is the exact thing people who don`t know online wars say. The only thing you had to have was organisation. Squads had it better all along. While coupled with your squad, you could setup online sorties one after another in a few moments. Every one of those sorties durated from 10-50 minutes and you could fly up to 12 of those in one evening. Half of the online campaign was played beside the game itself, on the website. And the decisions made on it made so much difference that if the leader players made a mistake (eg. choosing FW190 for low level escort), no effort could change the tide of war.

One plane, mission and pilot life. You either survived or died.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by carguy_

I`m sorry if you do not understand what I`m saying. You seem to be with IL2 more than a few years like me, so you should know that an online war, even a simple generic slot based online coop mission is a whole different experience than dedicated dogfight servers, however organised they may be.
The part where you talk about waiting and someone running into you at the start is the exact thing people who don`t know online wars say. The only thing you had to have was organisation. Squads had it better all along. While coupled with your squad, you could setup online sorties one after another in a few moments. Every one of those sorties durated from 10-50 minutes and you could fly up to 12 of those in one evening. Half of the online campaign was played beside the game itself, on the website. And the decisions made on it made so much difference that if the leader players made a mistake (eg. choosing FW190 for low level escort), no effort could change the tide of war.

One plane, mission and pilot life. You either survived or died.

I agree that all the online gaming features may not be complete yet, and may be blocking third parties from developing wars with full stats, but I'm still not sure what exactly you need. Right now you can have two sides with all the diversity of missions you can think of that also includes AI involvement. As far as Dead is Dead, nobody is stopping you from not flying for whatever time you feel is right, or even blocking people from joining the server for that time period.

I'm still not sure what exactly a COOP server can provide that a regular server can't?
It looks to me that he developer is trying to build one server model with options to setup for whatever purpose you would like to employ. It still appears to be a work in progress like everything else. It took along time for modders to fully develop the online wars in IL-2 and will probably take some time in COD aswell.

Its still a mute point until the game engine is optimized enough for everyone to enjoy a session online. Maybe by that time online options will be more workable for online wars.