The Crystal Ball

[Robert]

There's two things this forum ultimately wants so that it can be a productive and enjoyable place to be. One is the willingness to help and share our common interests that correspond to flight simming, and CoD specifically. The other is civility. The latter is what this place has lacked for quite a while.

I understand the frustrations that have come part and parcel with this release. It has left out parts of the game that many were hoping (some of which were even featured by Oleg) out of our flight simmeg hobby. I also understand that despite the glaring flaws and ommissions many flight simmers are happily flying and shooting down their respective enemy. I don't want to negate anyone's reality of their own experience, but we could at least be civil, and I think understanding both sides would help.

Apparent delays and lack of communication have become disappointing at times. But we also need to recognise that the team is working hard. What ever the fate befalls CoD and the future of the franchise I can say the intention was never to release the game in this state. Does anyone think they'd be working as hard as they are rebuilding the graphics and continuing to improve sounds if they weren't ever going to fix it or intended to cash in just to recover costs? That IMO deserves some credit regardless of the condition the game was released. MG isn't happy that they had to release CoD in this state and probably are a bit embarrassed because it reflects badly on their integrity - especially when we really simmers did have it good in the old days.

Recognise each others complaints. Also realise that once you've said something a few times (especially in sometimes derrogetory fashion) most members get the idea and it really isn't condusive to perpetually beat a drum. Have you ever lived next to a drummer? They may be the nicest people in the world. You may enjoy the heck out of drum music, but living next door one who is a pro/semi-pro musician is painful on the nerves. Remember that consistently drumming a point (especially one we have had communication on) is like living next to a drummer. *

Those who have been striving for a more enjoyable forum; remember this wasn't a contest or argument. The object is a forum where we can share our common interest that correspond to flight simming. It should be enjoyable. It would go a long way not to engage with those who have a history of negative partiality.

To Paraphrase John Lennon: You may call me a dreamer, but I hope I'm not the only one.


* Just in case a specific forum member thinks I'm singling him out because he's a drummer, I honestly never thought of that corrolation until halfway through the comparison. Never tried to single you out. I do find the coincidence funny. Hope you do too.

[addman]

Originally Posted by Robert

There's two things this forum ultimately wants so that it can be a productive and enjoyable place to be. One is the willingness to help and share our common interests that correspond to flight simming, and CoD specifically. The other is civility. The latter is what this place has lacked for quite a while.

I understand the frustrations that have come part and parcel with this release. It has left out parts of the game that many were hoping (some of which were even featured by Oleg) out of our flight simmeg hobby. I also understand that despite the glaring flaws and ommissions many flight simmers are happily flying and shooting down their respective enemy. I don't want to negate anyone's reality of their own experience, but we could at least be civil, and I think understanding both sides would help.

Apparent delays and lack of communication have become disappointing at times. But we also need to recognise that the team is working hard. What ever the fate befalls CoD and the future of the franchise I can say the intention was never to release the game in this state. Does anyone think they'd be working as hard as they are rebuilding the graphics and continuing to improve sounds if they weren't ever going to fix it or intended to cash in just to recover costs? That IMO deserves some credit regardless of the condition the game was released. MG isn't happy that they had to release CoD in this state and probably are a bit embarrassed because it reflects badly on their integrity - especially when we really simmers did have it good in the old days.

Recognise each others complaints. Also realise that once you've said something a few times (especially in sometimes derrogetory fashion) most members get the idea and it really isn't condusive to perpetually beat a drum. Have you ever lived next to a drummer? They may be the nicest people in the world. You may enjoy the heck out of drum music, but living next door one who is a pro/semi-pro musician is painful on the nerves. Remember that consistently drumming a point (especially one we have had communication on) is like living next to a drummer. *

Those who have been striving for a more enjoyable forum; remember this wasn't a contest or argument. The object is a forum where we can share our common interest that correspond to flight simming. It should be enjoyable. It would go a long way not to engage with those who have a history of negative partiality.

To Paraphrase John Lennon: You may call me a dreamer, but I hope I'm not the only one.


* Just in case a specific forum member thinks I'm singling him out because he's a drummer, I honestly never thought of that corrolation until halfway through the comparison. Never tried to single you out. I do find the coincidence funny. Hope you do too.

Nice post there Robert. I'd also like to add that the forum was a nice place, until the game was the released. This game has really torn the community apart, FACT!

[robtek]

addman, you don't blame the gun for firing the shot, why do you blame the game?

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by robtek

addman, you don't blame the gun for firing the shot, why do you blame the game?

Surely your smart enough Robtek to know that answer

[smink1701]

Nice one Addman. Right message for this time of year.

I'm one of the offenders here so let me take this opportunity apologize. I've always been a HUGE WW2 fighter fan and have played all aspects of the IL-2 series from day one. It looked like CLoD was going to be the Holy Grail of the combat flight sim genre and I hope this game eventually lives up to its potential. I think (for me anyway) that part of the frustration and venom comes from the fact that with sooooo much crap going on in the world (the economy, layoffs, the Dallas Cowboys!!!), CloD and regular updates were always a bright spot and something to look forward to. I will try to control my negativity and I hope the developers will try to keep us informed and pumped up.

[bongodriver]

Smink......I've been to Dallas and find it hard to believe you texans have anything to complain about, sunshine all year round...more or less, wide open space filled with incredible scenery, fort worth gun club.....and bone daddys, try living in the UK and you might have an excuse to be whinging bastige

[smink1701]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Smink......I've been to Dallas and find it hard to believe you texans have anything to complain about, sunshine all year round...more or less, wide open space filled with incredible scenery, fort worth gun club.....and bone daddys, try living in the UK and you might have an excuse to be whinging bastige

You got me....I can't disagree.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Smink......I've been to Dallas and find it hard to believe you texans have anything to complain about, sunshine all year round...more or less, wide open space filled with incredible scenery, fort worth gun club.....and bone daddys, try living in the UK and you might have an excuse to be whinging bastige

True, friends who moved to the Houston area are enthusiastic, despite the awful climate and the cockroaches ...

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Smink......I've been to Dallas and find it hard to believe you texans have anything to complain about, sunshine all year round...more or less, wide open space filled with incredible scenery, fort worth gun club.....and bone daddys, try living in the UK and you might have an excuse to be whinging bastige

Hey you forgot our extortionate fuel prices too

[addman]

Originally Posted by robtek

addman, you don't blame the gun for firing the shot, why do you blame the game?

What is this? The NRA?