109 advice needed (climb)

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by drewpee

After flying mostly 109s I have found on-line Reds have improved their tactics. Most of my loses have been due to pilot error and loosing track of EA in attempt to retain E. Most of my kills are from surprise 6 o'clock attacks.( It's getting harder to make a living in the Luftwaffe.)

Funny.. but while reading this I was struck with how much it sounded like an actual WWII account.. Which to me says the FMs are not as bad as some would have us belive! Long story short, you fly it like it is real and chances are you will get a real feeling experience! Fly it like it is a game where you are not worried about dying, thus you jump into a fight that a real pilot would not, and chances are you will NOT get a real feeling experience!

Originally Posted by drewpee

The fact that as a sim COD is still just a game. With allot of people if they can't rule the sky and rack up kills like in SP then blame the game/plane.

Bingo!

As my sig suggest! Most sim pilots are missing one key component in their personality that real WWII pilots had in spades.. The ability to look in the mirror and realize the source of the mistake!

Originally Posted by drewpee

Thing is, this game is less forgiving to those of us who refuse to adapt and learn. You are only going to get frustrated and angry at the game and others.
I'm still learning after too many years playing and that's just the way I like it. I'll leave the easy win games for my kids

Agreed 100%

[drewpee]

If it was more like RL, at 46 years of age I'd be lucky to be making Tea in the offices mess.

[ElAurens]

At this point in my CLOD learning curve I consider it a successful sortie if I return to base and land safely, even if I never see the enemy. As this is pretty much what most real pilots felt, something must be fairly good with this sim.



Not that I have not made a few kills, I have, but because I fly a Hurri pretty much exclusively, most are against bombers. Again fairly consistent with history. Once again the sim delivers.

Now if we could just get the Spit jocks to stop flying over to France for rhubarbs and give the Hurris top cover like they should...

Oh, wait, now I'm dreaming...

[svend]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Funny.. but while reading this I was struck with how much it sounded like an actual WWII account.. Which to me says the FMs are not as bad as some would have us belive! Long story short, you fly it like it is real and chances are you will get a real feeling experience! Fly it like it is a game where you are not worried about dying, thus you jump into a fight that a real pilot would not, and chances are you will NOT get a real feeling experience!


Bingo!

As my sig suggest! Most sim pilots are missing one key component in their personality that real WWII pilots had in spades.. The ability to look in the mirror and realize the source of the mistake!


Agreed 100%

To both of you. Agree 100%! Learn, adapt, take your time and do not get your self into trouble To apply real tactics here would be rather boring for most simmers I think - or?

In rl pilots in WWII would do everything to live another day to se their love ones again - that fear is someting we do not have to deal with when online or offline. Infact we only have our pride to deal with, when something goes wrong and we get shotdown or whatever "we push our luck too much perhaps" do the same mistakes over and over again because, that damn plane should be much more superior than my counter part. Knowing your plane and applying tactics in the true spirit of the aircraft we are flying is a big part in how to survive - and survive!

Aces who survived the war do not talk alot about luck and if they do you can se the serious look in their face or grin/smile, that pushing your luck can go realy bad! They for sure know We all know alot about Hartmann and you can be damn sure he wasnt one who played with luck, the tactic he he used has alot about to do with survival and have a escape plan if needed (part of his tactic). Sticking our neck out is not about pushing your luck it`s about beeing in an environment that can get you killed if you dont know, what you are doing.

It scares me, when FM is put into focus, as you will never know if the goal is to adapt the plane to the player and not the other way around Im saying this in a rather human and friendly way AND! not ment to bash anyone

If I get any holes in my plane or bullets are directed at me it`s damn sure it`s my own fault simply because I pushed my luck to fare and getting into a situation that wasnt good for me and my plane.