Hurricane Rotol mixture controls?

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by l3uLLDoZeR

The real question is: Does the mixture actually do anything in this game?

Yes it is doing something, but not what it is supposed to do.

[klem]

Normal flight is Mixture at Auto-Rich with the lever in the back position. Forward is Auto-Weak (ref: Pilots Notes) and only serves to assist high altitude low fuel consumption cruising, it isn't use for anything else and doesn't need to be used at all if you don't want to.

The little Graphic simply shows you the position of your HOTAS lever or other axis that you are using for Mixture. That interpretation of 'percentage' is only the amount you have moved your HOTAS lever, i.e. fully maxed = 100%, fully min = 0% and in the Hurricane fully min = cockpit lever fully back = RICH which is correct. (Note! as someone pointed out the Spitfire mixture and the lever graphic is working the wrong way round).

Some guys insist on calling out percentages for things like Mixture graphic, Throttle graphic etc. Its an old IL-2 habit. They would be better calling Rich/Lean and Boost or RPM readings according to the gauges, it is less confusing.

[Bokononist]

Originally Posted by klem

Normal flight is Mixture at Auto-Rich with the lever in the back position. Forward is Auto-Weak (ref: Pilots Notes) and only serves to assist high altitude low fuel consumption cruising, it isn't use for anything else and doesn't need to be used at all if you don't want to.

The little Graphic simply shows you the position of your HOTAS lever or other axis that you are using for Mixture. That interpretation of 'percentage' is only the amount you have moved your HOTAS lever, i.e. fully maxed = 100%, fully min = 0% and in the Hurricane fully min = cockpit lever fully back = RICH which is correct. (Note! as someone pointed out the Spitfire mixture and the lever graphic is working the wrong way round).

Some guys insist on calling out percentages for things like Mixture graphic, Throttle graphic etc. Its an old IL-2 habit. They would be better calling Rich/Lean and Boost or RPM readings according to the gauges, it is less confusing.

I'm with you there Klem, it's especially confusing for people like me who didn't play the old IL2. On saying that I don't know how to describe the prop pitch when flying red though, other than fine and coarse.

[JG53Frankyboy]

well, than it should be the same in ALL planes !
3D cockpit lever movement = controler axis/lever movement (poor chaps who dont use these to cotnrol........)

Means also, controler axis/lever full forward in a FIAT means 3D cockpit lever full forward = zero Throttle !

for me this is totaly stupid in a game "we" use HOTAS controlers !
We should control our controlers, not directly the 3D cockpitlevers in their direction of movement.
BUT, the most important is still, it should be the same logic in ALL planes.

In the moment it is not.

and this 100% and 0% is a simplification what one is meaning , these % are shown if you set your "lever input info window" to a digital reading instead of the bars.

[TomcatViP]

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

well, than it should be the same in ALL planes !
3D cockpit lever movement = controler axis/lever movement (poor chaps who dont use these to cotnrol........)

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for me this is totaly stupid in a game "we" use HOTAS controlers !
We should control our controlers, not directly the 3D cockpitlevers in their direction of movement.
BUT, the most important is still, it should be the same logic in ALL planes.

In the moment it is not.

and this 100% and 0% is a simplification what one is meaning , these % are shown if you set your "lever input info window" to a digital reading instead of the bars.

The most stupid thing I've read lately. I guess you lost all your inspiration that night - happens to all of us

What you wrote will leads us back to Sony hands ctrller with circle, star and square buttons as flight ctrls

[JG53Frankyboy]

compare how the 3D incockpit levers (mixture & throttle),of a G.50 move with how the Hurricane/Spitfire levers move in reaction to your controler input, perhaps than you understand what i mean.

my main interest is that all planes can be contolled at least with the same logic.

[TomcatViP]

each country has his own habits. Some power up for example by pushing on the throttle and some pull.

When I fly the Hurricane for ex. I hev to keep in mind that the prop pitch ctrl is reversed from that of the 109.

I am sure that by mapping different profile for your ctrler according to each plane you like to fly, it shld be as if CoD has a unified ctrl law.

[l3uLLDoZeR]

Originally Posted by klem

Normal flight is Mixture at Auto-Rich with the lever in the back position. Forward is Auto-Weak (ref: Pilots Notes) and only serves to assist high altitude low fuel consumption cruising, it isn't use for anything else and doesn't need to be used at all if you don't want to.

Right on, this was helpful. I was thinking you could fin tune the mixture to whatever percent you wanted..I didn't realize it was auto-rich or auto-lean!

In the real world setting the mixture even at 7,000 ft makes a huge difference in fuel burn, but if I go too lean the engine will run rough and really hot. I also can see my exhaust temps to help set my mix.


Oh and I'm glad you got a chance to jump in with some smack talk Tomcat, I would be lost without you!

[Dano]

But... if full rich = auto rich then why do I see yellow exhaust flames? I was under the impression that I should not see any yellow when my mixture is set correctly and thus the auto feature does not work correctly or is that realistic?

[klem]

The word "auto" relates to the engines ability to maintain the correct Rich mixture with changing altitude. However in CoD I do seem to be able to Lean the mixture off until the flame changes from Yellow to Blue, usually around 25-30% travel so either its modelling adjustable rich/lean level between the extremes or I'm simply hitting a crossover point.

I haven't found anything in the Pilots Notes that talks about gradual adjustment of Mixture, just fully back (Rich) or fully forward (Lean)