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Old 11-25-2011, 01:00 PM
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So how does that correspond with rich showing as 0% and weak 100%?
Honestly, don't know. I can't find my Hurricane I Pilots Notes, but here's a link I found on the Storm of War forum, thanks to EAF_Starfire:


http://airwarfare.com/sow/index.php?...266&Itemid=253

Unfortunately, the cockpit illustrations in these Notes are not clear enough to answer your question above properly. Will check my modest library at home to see if there is a high-res photo of the Hurricane I mixture lever. (This lever was removed in Hurri II's when mixture control became fully automatic). But important for operation in CoD (and real Hurricanes, too): pull back for Rich; push forward for lean.
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Old 11-25-2011, 03:52 PM
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The real question is: Does the mixture actually do anything in this game?

I've yet to see any improvement in performance at altitude.
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Old 11-25-2011, 04:07 PM
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Try going to full rich at altitude, then get back to me.

Mixture adjustment is not a magic performance enhancer. All you can expect is to have the aircraft running smoothly.

I've had my Hurri/Rotol to 25,000+ ft online and it ran Ok. It's no P47 at altitude by any stretch, but it ran smoothly.
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Old 11-25-2011, 04:08 PM
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The real question is: Does the mixture actually do anything in this game?

I've yet to see any improvement in performance at altitude.
I guess You hven' try yet. Btw mixt has nothing to do with improving the perfs.

I am sure that flying canopy open deny you from hving some clear minded logics
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Old 11-25-2011, 04:24 PM
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The real question is: Does the mixture actually do anything in this game?
Yes it is doing something, but not what it is supposed to do.
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Old 11-25-2011, 06:27 PM
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Normal flight is Mixture at Auto-Rich with the lever in the back position. Forward is Auto-Weak (ref: Pilots Notes) and only serves to assist high altitude low fuel consumption cruising, it isn't use for anything else and doesn't need to be used at all if you don't want to.

The little Graphic simply shows you the position of your HOTAS lever or other axis that you are using for Mixture. That interpretation of 'percentage' is only the amount you have moved your HOTAS lever, i.e. fully maxed = 100%, fully min = 0% and in the Hurricane fully min = cockpit lever fully back = RICH which is correct. (Note! as someone pointed out the Spitfire mixture and the lever graphic is working the wrong way round).

Some guys insist on calling out percentages for things like Mixture graphic, Throttle graphic etc. Its an old IL-2 habit. They would be better calling Rich/Lean and Boost or RPM readings according to the gauges, it is less confusing.
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Old 11-25-2011, 06:36 PM
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Normal flight is Mixture at Auto-Rich with the lever in the back position. Forward is Auto-Weak (ref: Pilots Notes) and only serves to assist high altitude low fuel consumption cruising, it isn't use for anything else and doesn't need to be used at all if you don't want to.

The little Graphic simply shows you the position of your HOTAS lever or other axis that you are using for Mixture. That interpretation of 'percentage' is only the amount you have moved your HOTAS lever, i.e. fully maxed = 100%, fully min = 0% and in the Hurricane fully min = cockpit lever fully back = RICH which is correct. (Note! as someone pointed out the Spitfire mixture and the lever graphic is working the wrong way round).

Some guys insist on calling out percentages for things like Mixture graphic, Throttle graphic etc. Its an old IL-2 habit. They would be better calling Rich/Lean and Boost or RPM readings according to the gauges, it is less confusing.
I'm with you there Klem, it's especially confusing for people like me who didn't play the old IL2. On saying that I don't know how to describe the prop pitch when flying red though, other than fine and coarse.
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Old 11-25-2011, 07:41 PM
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well, than it should be the same in ALL planes !
3D cockpit lever movement = controler axis/lever movement (poor chaps who dont use these to cotnrol........)

Means also, controler axis/lever full forward in a FIAT means 3D cockpit lever full forward = zero Throttle !

for me this is totaly stupid in a game "we" use HOTAS controlers !
We should control our controlers, not directly the 3D cockpitlevers in their direction of movement.
BUT, the most important is still, it should be the same logic in ALL planes.

In the moment it is not.

and this 100% and 0% is a simplification what one is meaning , these % are shown if you set your "lever input info window" to a digital reading instead of the bars.
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Old 11-26-2011, 06:37 PM
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well, than it should be the same in ALL planes !
3D cockpit lever movement = controler axis/lever movement (poor chaps who dont use these to cotnrol........)

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for me this is totaly stupid in a game "we" use HOTAS controlers !
We should control our controlers, not directly the 3D cockpitlevers in their direction of movement.
BUT, the most important is still, it should be the same logic in ALL planes.

In the moment it is not.

and this 100% and 0% is a simplification what one is meaning , these % are shown if you set your "lever input info window" to a digital reading instead of the bars.
The most stupid thing I've read lately. I guess you lost all your inspiration that night - happens to all of us

What you wrote will leads us back to Sony hands ctrller with circle, star and square buttons as flight ctrls
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Normal flight is Mixture at Auto-Rich with the lever in the back position. Forward is Auto-Weak (ref: Pilots Notes) and only serves to assist high altitude low fuel consumption cruising, it isn't use for anything else and doesn't need to be used at all if you don't want to.

Right on, this was helpful. I was thinking you could fin tune the mixture to whatever percent you wanted..I didn't realize it was auto-rich or auto-lean!

In the real world setting the mixture even at 7,000 ft makes a huge difference in fuel burn, but if I go too lean the engine will run rough and really hot. I also can see my exhaust temps to help set my mix.


Oh and I'm glad you got a chance to jump in with some smack talk Tomcat, I would be lost without you!
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