Unlocking the turret ring in the Ju-87 & 88..?.

[HR_Naglfar]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

Remember you can't move the gun whilst firing it though !! gawd knows why ??

It's just a control conflict. Assign another control for Hold to offset camera instead of left mouse in the camera controls, or change left mouse to fire weapons and problem solved.


Also you just need Move Mount Left and Right to move the turret ring.

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by HR_Naglfar

It's just a control conflict. Assign another control for Hold to offset camera instead of left mouse in the camera controls, or change left mouse to fire weapons and problem solved.


Also you just need Move Mount Left and Right to move the turret ring.

I'm not in camera mode though in in a gunner position. Changed the setting and the mouse moves but stops firing when the gun moves from first position the guns fired.

Also the rings not moving.

Hmmm

Just rechecked

I cant move the ring at all now as well, only the gun moves or the bf110 turret ring using up/dn/lft/right
I don't use TIR and use F10 to switch to mouse mode.

Also assigning the

Is this the problem.

[HR_Naglfar]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

I'm not in camera mode though in in a gunner position.

Also the rings not moving.

Hmmm

Just rechecked

I cant move the ring at all now as well, only the gun moves or the bf110 turret ring using up/dn/lft/right
I don't use TIR and use F10 to switch to mouse mode.

Is this the problem.

But... the 110 doesn't have turret ring or movable mount.

Have you tried with other gunners?


Edit: I made a quick test and the only ring mount that seems to work ok is the Ju-87's. The rear turrets from the He-111 and Blenheim also work ok (I'm not sure but I think that the Br.20 work ok too, but I didn't tested it now).

[JG53Frankyboy]

the ring of the Ju87 is working, the ones of the Ju 88 not IIRC

[JG52Uther]

I leave the AI to man the guns, far too complicated for someone my age.

[Tavingon]

It seems like its harder to use the guns than fly... No wonder these gunners spent months at gunnery school

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

the ring of the Ju87 is working, the ones of the Ju 88 not IIRC

Correct same result here.

Originally Posted by HR_Naglfar

But... the 110 doesn't have turret ring or movable mount.

Have you tried with other gunners?


Edit: I made a quick test and the only ring mount that seems to work ok is the Ju-87's. The rear turrets from the He-111 and Blenheim also work ok (I'm not sure but I think that the Br.20 work ok too, but I didn't tested it now).

My bad I meant the He111

Ok

Originally Posted by Tavingon

It seems like its harder to use the guns than fly... No wonder these gunners spent months at gunnery school

The MG's move like they are in thick oil, or the gunners suffering from malnutrition.
Also
With the 1 second key press delay and consequential over run on the rail control, it makes tail gunnery almost useless.

Seems like an overhaul of the whole things needed to make the bomber experience worth while.




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[JG53Frankyboy]

well, when i fly bombers online (almost 100%) i have removed the tracers in my guns and also let the AI shoot.
i personally count the gunner stuff to the WIP list actually.....

[ParaB]

The turret controls are IMO a prime example of bad game design in CoD. They are over-complicated and basically unusable.

[robtek]

I think the guns reflect only the problems of RL like Air-drag.
Manual handled defence armament just isn't easy to handle! Live with it.
I personally find the pleas for more arcade pityful, learn to cope with it or go to arcade settings, maybe it is easier there.