Su26

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Faucon

You are just one of those guys who cant read what we are saying to them.

no, I'm one of those guys who don't like arrogant folks of your stance.

When I read your first message I thought it was like "making formation flights with warbirds" is not realistic. This is simply why I answered with videos of formation flights made with prop planes.

you don't want to fly diamond formations like they do either, or you'll fly in the wake turbulence of the plane in front of you. Take off and landings as they do are cool to see but are not realistic with a high performance prop plane.

Now someting else about the razgriz's video: If they are landing in close formation, it's their choice and right. It's a game after all. Realistic or not, it depends how you use it. For example (Tuckie can confirm), I'm part of a virtual aerobatic team (Blue Comets) which is led by an experimented formation flight pilot (with prop-planes). For live show, we were always landing one by one after a break. "Blue Comets, virtual world, real procedures".
You seems to laugh unrespectaly at people doing this in IL2.

no, I just said it's funny, it's probably because I used to fly close formations with vintage planes and I know the dos and donts of such activity. As you said it's a game, it's not reality, but some people see that and are actually convinced it's feasible. I find it amusing, that's it.

And you better not accusing me of being an "armchair expert" while I post (on the same topic) 2 videos of myself making advanced aerobatics with a 2-seats (advanced for this kind of plane I mean, not the competition level).

well I want to hope that you were passenger, because if you're learning to become an aerobatic pilot and you don't understand what I mean you've got a LONG way to go buddy..

..and all of this still doesn't justify for your language and offensive words..

[Faucon]

Sure I understand what you meant. What I'm saying, once again, is that you weren't enough clear, as I explained...

well I want to hope that you were passenger

It would be hard since I'm alone in the plane

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Faucon

Sure I understand what you meant. What I'm saying, once again, is that you weren't enough clear, as I explained...

still no reason for your smarmy answer, since you don't know my flight experience..

It would be hard since I'm alone in the plane

well you'll need a lot of luck then: arrogant pilots like you don't usually survive themselves..

[pupo162]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

still no reason for your smarmy answer, since you don't know my flight experience..



well you'll need a lot of luck then: arrogant pilots like you don't usually survive themselves..

dont you think you have trolled enough yet?

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by pupo162

dont you think you have trolled enough yet?

trolled enough? Let's look at facts again:

1) someone posts a link to a video of an online aerobatic team
2) I make an innocuous comment about the fact that it's not realistic (never said it's not cool, just not what you'd see in RL)
3) Faucon gets all patronising on me, when in fact he didn't understand what I was talking about.
4) I believe I have enough flying hours on a variety of aircraft to tell that he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about himself (turns out he didn't understand what I said).
5) he gets wound up and insults me.
6) I still keep it civilised and talk to him, his comments still leave me a bit puzzled in terms of true aeronautical knowledge.
7)..and I'm the troll?!

I really dunno what's wrong with some of you guys..

[pupo162]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

trolled enough? Let's look at facts again:

1) someone posts a link to a video of an online aerobatic team ( who happens to be facuon~s team)
2) I make an innocuous comment about the fact that it's not realistic (never said it's not cool, just not what you'd see in RL) ( you posted an inflamatory comment waiting for a response)
3) Faucon gets all patronising on me, when in fact he didn't understand what I was talking about. (faucons hits your bait, the happiest moment of your day to show you wrong)
... etc...

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[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by pupo162

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dude, I had no idea it was his team, and even if I did, am I entitled to my opinion or not? I flicked fast through the topic, got curious about the video, opened it, found it cute but not realistic, made a comment about it. I'm not dissing anyone here.. jeeez it feels like dealing with wanna be homeboyz in da hood..

Like our mod alpha suggests: you don't like me? Put me on ignore list.

[Madfish]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

trolled enough? Let's look at facts again:

[no facts at all]

I really dunno what's wrong with some of you guys..

Wow. Read my comment above and pay attention to the quotes (they are from you if you didn't notice). If you don't understand it get a friend (if you have something like that) read and explain it for you.

Also your list is funny. For a facts guy you're really good at getting them all wrong and messed up.
Here's the real list:
1) You were the one using "lolspeak" first (in a patronizing way even!) because of a random video
2) then he replied. You said in a patronizing way - good, now you're equal at best.
3) You reply again. In some sort of ghetto language and totally insulting.
See? That's a list. And it's correct.

You were first with insulting so get over it now. Like I said before I tried to defend you on a number of occasions because I believe in "free and open speech" but what you're doing here is just rubbish. Don't go looking for internet fights - it makes you look like a weird kiddo in a dark cellar.


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Speaking of the Su26 - does anyone know how to get Flight Unlimited running on a "recent" computer? I tried searching the web but no results so far. I'd REALLY love if someone has a tip.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ight_Unlimited

I also wonder if the mappers could create something like the Flight Unlimited maneuver courses etc. with the "new" editor and C++ capability?

[Dano]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

still no reason for your smarmy answer, since you don't know my flight experience..



well you'll need a lot of luck then: arrogant pilots like you don't usually survive themselves..

If you can't see why he reacted that way many of us can, you need to calm down and get a grip to be honest.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Dano

If you can't see why he reacted that way many of us can, you need to calm down and get a grip to be honest.

yeah maybe it's not me that needs to calm down: one can have a civilised exchange of opinions without going all xxxxxx and calling others names. I'm perfectly calm as it happens, just surprised at how short-fuzed some folks in here are..