1st Multisquad Campaign Battle of Britain

[klem]

Originally Posted by JTDawg

WOW IF I WANT TO PLAY JOIN A CLAN ! LONE WOLVES, VULCHING, JUMPINGING IN FIGHTS = BS MOST OF US TEAM PLAYERS DONT DO THIS .WE FLY WINGMAN TACTICS, AN IN GROUPS .I PERSONALLY NEVER VULCH!!! YOU WANT TO EXCLUDE CERTAIN PLAYERS FINE .BUT MAKING US JOIN A CLAN TO PLAY IS B.S-----SIGNED JUST A TEAM PLAYER!!!!

Not putting words in cheesehawks mouth but I wonder if he means that all players will have to form into Squads in the missions to play in them, even if they don't belong to a CoD Squad, and will not be allowed to fly alone doing just whatever they please (=lonewolf). Of course existing CoD Squads will want to fly as a complete unit in one of the mission Squads but most of them are willing to have lone players along to build effective numbers. No reason why say 10 lone players shouldn't form one of the mission Sqauds either as long as they follow 'the plan' and don't just bog off doing whatever they please.

I suspect he doesn't mean that individuals can't join, just that they must be prepared to join a mission Squad and follow the Squad commanders instructions. Otherwise, why bother to join in a campaign like this?

[SNAFU]

Basically you are aiming at a similar concept as I did, when I started working on a July-Campaign. You will not get large number of players on a regular base with shorter intervalls (I even think 1 week intervall is too short) in my opinion, therefore I decided to go for AI engagement to provide coordinated opposition. I currently put my work on hold due to missing spare-time, motivation and the RAF Radio bug fix, but I will put the files public the day the bug is fixed, so you can use the basic script if interested.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by klem

Not putting words in cheesehawks mouth but I wonder if he means that all players will have to form into Squads in the missions to play in them, even if they don't belong to a CoD Squad, and will not be allowed to fly alone doing just whatever they please (=lonewolf). Of course existing CoD Squads will want to fly as a complete unit in one of the mission Squads but most of them are willing to have lone players along to build effective numbers. No reason why say 10 lone players shouldn't form one of the mission Sqauds either as long as they follow 'the plan' and don't just bog off doing whatever they please.

I suspect he doesn't mean that individuals can't join, just that they must be prepared to join a mission Squad and follow the Squad commanders instructions. Otherwise, why bother to join in a campaign like this?

+1

I'm hoping that's exactly what was meant, too. JT, flying with you on the ATAG server has been an education for me -- and I've been flying online since Air Warrior 2. Specifically: ammo loadouts, fuel loadouts, fighter tactics, and most recently the re-installation of Cliffs of Dover to reduce CTD's, stuttering, etc. You've generously shared your techniques -- reflected by your high kill ratios nightly -- with each of us flying with you. To top it off, we've shared some pretty poor jokes over Teamspeak to pass the time it takes to gain alt over the Channel.

From this Canuck "hoser" to this Indiana "Hoosier", I'd be proud to fly as your #2 anytime.

[hardiwn]

I agree completely with snapper,i have learned lots of needed info from JT and Sniper and fly with them when i can.I am not with any group per say but when i join up with a squad i try my best to follow their lead and not lone wolf my way around.I hope this is just a miss understanding as i enjoy my sunday flights.

[klem]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

We want people willing to work with other people to accomplish a goal, if a squadron accepts you into their ranks (whether you are a member or not), that's fine. Sign ups will be by squadron.

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If you mean signing up under a mission squad then the Thread signup should take care of that.

If you mean signups by existing CoD Squadrons (like ours, 56RAF) we'll have to let the guys reading the Thread know we are open to guests and they can ask to fly with us in the Thread or by PM.

[Osprey]

Well we are recruiting, red or blue, so if you want to do this sort of thing then you can join us because it's what we want to do.



.....do I win ten pounds?

this problem has been resolved 5./JG27.Farber has steped foward like a verry respectfull leader and the problem has been took care of

thank you S! and see you in the air Farber

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by Pegasus_Eagle

so if im reading this right you guys are saying that people like me jeepy and JT are no longer welcome???

I am part of a squad and and am 2nd in comand of another squad i have been a member of for almost 15 years.

and i have flown quite a few missions with jt jeepy and the others that were with us and have this to say about them,

JT and JEEPY abd the others that were with us were the first to form up and also stayed togeather most of the time in the first and last the 2 i flew with him.

now i dont know what the problem is but there is one and i will if this is theway the orgnizers want it please the one that pmmed me the pass contact me by pm.

BECAUSE IF IT IS THE WAY YOU WANT IT IM FINISHED AND I WILL RECOMEND TO THE RAAF & THE OTHER SQUAD THAT IM 2ND IN COMAND OF THAT THEY DO NOT TAKE PART IN THIS.

AS WELL AS AND NOT TO DISCLUDE THE SINGLE FLYERS
TO BE INVOLVED IN A FORCED RECUTE TYPE OF SITUATION JUST SO THEY CAN FLY.

I dont know where this has come from but public players are welcome. There is no forced recruitment. Who was that guy anyway that turned up with less than 3 posts and started this whole thing?!

Its true this is a Squadron based event and public players are encourage to fly with (not join up with as a member) one of the squadrons taking part... If it really comes down to it they can band together and be a temporary squadron if they want... Klem was on the right lines, maybe this is because he has read the thread from beginning to end? Lets not be so hastey with our perceptions just because some one with a few posts on 1c jumps this thread and makes wild assumptions. Why would I have made a sign up template for public players if there were not welcome?!

So not much need for threats or caps locks...


EDIT1: Right ok looking back I see a statement by our Rudelmann. Seeing as the next campaign is:

A) Not ready
B) Not announced officially
C) No rules at all have been drawn up for it
D) We are waiting on several things including CTD fix, stats etc.

Its not really a concern right now. I have made no thoughts to public players for the next one (probley the LAST thing on my mind right now). Basically the next campaign will be twice as long, game will be more stable (fingers crossed), have working stats, etc etc. I dont see why public players would be excluded.

Rudelmann has misunderstood something somewhere.

Sorry bout that.

[JTDawg]

We do not encourage lone wolves, but for sake of pulling the community together, allowed it this time. Next campaign will be more strict on squadrons only. ,This is a quote from Ruddelman, before your call to arms post an doggles, who asked me to join ! since i was flying red ,and you needed red .To make a long story short i think i brought 8 to 10 red non clan members . in a little over a day, For the start of your project ,which i thought was great !! and try to bring more in every week. i have read every post on this thread!. So after all i did ,after seeing ruddelmans post =slap in the face . cold slap what ever you want to call it. Was not trying to start anything but trying to defend players who fly well together, that are not in a clan=== but like i was told battlefeld 3 --------- that way,= thats what is just wrong an rude. I will not post on this subject again, i,m 51 so not a kid! or trouble maker ,you get what you give !

[bw_wolverine]

I think this is all just a misunderstanding.

I took the post regarding lone wolves to mean people who just want to join the server and not fly with anyone else. Just go up as a one plane sortie and mess around.

I'm not sure if that's been happening with the current campaign, but if it has been, then I agree that it should be discouraged.

I joined as a pilot with no official squadron at the outset and I've been made to feel very welcome flying with the others since I fly as part of the group I spawn with. I don't expect the next campaign will be any different in that respect.