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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

View Poll Results: When will the next beta patch be released?
thursday!!! 1 0.74%
this friday 18 13.24%
during next week 15 11.03%
during the week after the next week 12 8.82%
in three weeks 9 6.62%
after a month 12 8.82%
two months 2 1.47%
three months 5 3.68%
this year, hopefully.. 20 14.71%
in two weeks 42 30.88%
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Old 11-09-2011, 12:24 AM
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No, not "well said"!

It is perfectly reasonable to trust Maddox Games (correct, even if Luthier is bossing now) with their history, to deliver!

If they are able (moneywise) to do so!
disagree.

maddox games very much muddied their image with the release of CoD. many promises were made and hard questions ducked ahead of the release. many of these promises still have not been fullfilled.

as i've said. I want this game to succeed, but the lack of regular and honest communication puzzles me. why p#ss off a loyal customer base?
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Old 11-09-2011, 02:10 AM
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many promises were made and hard questions ducked ahead of the release. many of these promises still have not been fulfilled.
Does anyone have a list of these so called many promisees that were made and still not fulfilled?

I'm serious!

I keep seeing people make references to these 'many promisees' but have yet to see this mythical list!

If there are 'so many' than it should be a simple task for any of the whiners to post a dozen or so.. Right?

Unless this list is more myth than fact? Which is what I belive it to be!

I really think all you whiners should team up and produce this 'list'!

Why?

Because in doing so I truly belive even the hardest of hard core whiners would quickly realize just how short the list is!

Oh, and just so the effort is not in vain! Make sure the items your put on the list have some bases in reality!

That is to say make sure you can provide the reference and/or link to where these so called promises were made! Because you should know in advance that quoting he said she said they know someone who saw Oleg in line at star-bucks said so will not count as a valid promise! Also know that just talking about what might be done or could be done during the 5+ years of CoD development does not count as a promise either.

PS I know the hard core whiners will not take up the challenge!

Why?

Because they love to whine and taking up this task would take that joy away from them, so this goes out to the open minded whiners that may have just got caught up in the frenzy that is whining, but are willing to step back from the edge to see the light and maybe even start enjoying life a little
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:08 AM
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disagree.

maddox games very much muddied their image with the release of CoD. many promises were made and hard questions ducked ahead of the release. many of these promises still have not been fullfilled.

as i've said. I want this game to succeed, but the lack of regular and honest communication puzzles me. why p#ss off a loyal customer base?
If you where a "loyal customer", you've wouldn't have written that, as loyality includes patience and forgiveness!
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:47 AM
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flightsims will and have always a development, there are NO flightsimulator out what is bug-free if you want, the budgets are in most cases low, team´s are small, compared to shooter games, and soo on.

if the trolls are not getting it, how such high fidelity SIM`s are been done, and what complicate physics are behind, sorry, you guys are just not old enough, plus, it is the rong community and forum where you guys troll around, check out the PS3 or X-box community, a free tip, they have the Tom Clancy`s H.A.W.K.S game too. Every time the same junk is getting up, beta testers from CoD and devs., know the main issues, and they will work on it as hard as they can.

again to the moderators here, you should remove them much earlier, it cant be, that this troll topics always are been there, from the same 3-5 users on this forum. I feel annoyed by this fact....
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:04 AM
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flightsims will and have always a development, there are NO flightsimulator out what is bug-free if you want, the budgets are in most cases low, team´s are small, compared to shooter games, and soo on.

if the trolls are not getting it, how such high fidelity SIM`s are been done, and what complicate physics are behind, sorry, you guys are just not old enough, plus, it is the rong community and forum where you guys troll around, check out the PS3 or X-box community, a free tip, they have the Tom Clancy`s H.A.W.K.S game too. Every time the same junk is getting up, beta testers from CoD and devs., know the main issues, and they will work on it as hard as they can.

again to the moderators here, you should remove them much earlier, it cant be, that this troll topics always are been there, from the same 3-5 users on this forum. I feel annoyed by this fact....
lol.
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:08 AM
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Just to be fair, there are still one or two minor issues with this game ...
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:26 AM
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flightsims will and have always a development, there are NO flightsimulator out what is bug-free if you want, the budgets are in most cases low, team´s are small, compared to shooter games, and soo on.

if the trolls are not getting it, how such high fidelity SIM`s are been done, and what complicate physics are behind, sorry, you guys are just not old enough, plus, it is the rong community and forum where you guys troll around, check out the PS3 or X-box community, a free tip, they have the Tom Clancy`s H.A.W.K.S game too. Every time the same junk is getting up, beta testers from CoD and devs., know the main issues, and they will work on it as hard as they can.

again to the moderators here, you should remove them much earlier, it cant be, that this troll topics always are been there, from the same 3-5 users on this forum. I feel annoyed by this fact....
Yes but if they are here annoying the you and the devs,
they are not pestering people on a hairdressing/nail and beauty forum.





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Old 11-09-2011, 11:02 AM
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Weird. I've totally missed this thread till now. Luthier bashing and Tree and my pritty little AoA. A Vengeance made thread.

But haven't got anything to add but now my count is up by one.

Wait, got something. For what other business would you accept the feedback frequencey of 1C? For what other product you've purchased that was in the same condition CloD was at 31 of March would you accept the response "we're working on it" and then not a word for weeks?

We need some parables so the peeps with their head up Luthiers...sleeve(?!) understand. Replace CloD and the support and feedback rate with...
- A new car
- Your new cable teve
- Your new telly
- Your new iPhone

Noone has managed to explain to me why I should accept more horse manure from 1C than I would accept from any other business/product.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:22 AM
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Weird. I've totally missed this thread till now. Luthier bashing and Tree and my pritty little AoA. A Vengeance made thread.

But haven't got anything to add but now my count is up by one.

Wait, got something. For what other business would you accept the feedback frequencey of 1C? For what other product you've purchased that was in the same condition CloD was at 31 of March would you accept the response "we're working on it" and then not a word for weeks?

We need some parables so the peeps with their head up Luthiers...sleeve(?!) understand. Replace CloD and the support and feedback rate with...
- A new car
- Your new cable teve
- Your new telly
- Your new iPhone

Noone has managed to explain to me why I should accept more horse manure from 1C than I would accept from any other business/product.
Say what? If a product I buy cost hundreds or thousands of pounds, then I will complain mightily until it is working as advertised.
If I spend the price of CoD on a meal (depending where you bought it, from £5 to £60...) and it was not what I expected then I would complain about the meal, then leave the restaurant and not go back.I'm pretty sure if the restaurant had a forum I wouldn't spend the rest of my life on that forum complaining non stop...
Its a cheap game, to while away a few hours of your time if you wish, not life and death.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:25 AM
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If I spend the price of CoD on a meal (depending where you bought it, from £5 to £60...) and it was not what I expected then I would complain about the meal, then leave the restaurant and not go back.I'm pretty sure if the restaurant had a forum I wouldn't spend the rest of my life on that forum complaining non stop...
Hehe. Fun.
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