Gun Convergence

[madrebel]

I have a question, does anyone have minimum convergence data?

The only data I have ever herd of was for spitfires who's cannon couldn't be converged below iirc 220m. Ever since I read that I have been looking for minimums for various other aircraft and haven't seen anything.

Like for example 109s. I've seen flight sims allow for all kinds of convergence settings for the centerline guns that just don't seem plausible to me. how much can you really raise or lower that motor kanone? can those cowl MGs really be adjusted much? what about the Emil MGFFs? I would think there is a limit for how close you can converge them.

So yeah, if anyone has source data relating to minimum convergence for any warbird I would like to see it.

[reflected]

Can someone tell me WHERE and HOW you can set it up and save?
Setting up in the "plane" hangar works, I just can't save or load it.

[JG52Uther]

Originally Posted by reflected

Can someone tell me WHERE and HOW you can set it up and save?
Setting up in the "plane" hangar works, I just can't save or load it.

I set it up when online, and save it with another name.

[SEE]

Originally Posted by reflected

Can someone tell me WHERE and HOW you can set it up and save?
Setting up in the "plane" hangar works, I just can't save or load it.

I don't do it in the Hangar, convergence for each ac is in the 'User' file which you can quickly edit using notepad. There are two 'User' ini files - one is in the 1c Publishing game install directory and another in the 'Steamapps' directory. I copy and paste my revised one into the steam apps as I think one is used for MP and the other for SP.

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by madrebel

I have a question, does anyone have minimum convergence data?

The only data I have ever herd of was for spitfires who's cannon couldn't be converged below iirc 220m. Ever since I read that I have been looking for minimums for various other aircraft and haven't seen anything.

Like for example 109s. I've seen flight sims allow for all kinds of convergence settings for the centerline guns that just don't seem plausible to me. how much can you really raise or lower that motor kanone? can those cowl MGs really be adjusted much? what about the Emil MGFFs? I would think there is a limit for how close you can converge them.

So yeah, if anyone has source data relating to minimum convergence for any warbird I would like to see it.

Hi. I have no data from minimum values (i never try it), only the factory settings:


This canvas helps the convergence setting 400m (100m away from the aircraft):


(source: BF 109 E1 E3 starre Schusswaffe. You can DL from here if interest)

It can be found in the game, unfortunately, can not be used in the normal way

[II./JG1_Wilcke]

VO101 Tom,

Well done, great post been looking for documentation like that for awhile!

I wish the devs would have added an ingame screen where one could setup the aircraft and actually shoot at a target and then analyze the hits.

I see that we have horizontal and vertical convergance, do both those numbers have to match?

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by II./JG1_Wilcke

VO101 Tom,
Well done, great post been looking for documentation like that for awhile!

Thx. Take a look at that page, there are still many interesting documents (LW and Allied types as well). In addition there are two site, where a lot of similar stuff in (On these pages you need to pay, but much more document are available. Particularly the Hafner site):
www.luftfahrt-archiv-hafner.de
www.cockpitinstumente.de

Originally Posted by II./JG1_Wilcke

I wish the devs would have added an ingame screen where one could setup the aircraft and actually shoot at a target and then analyze the hits.

It would be useful to measure. But I suspect that the spray pattern compared to photos, we would cry

Originally Posted by II./JG1_Wilcke

I see that we have horizontal and vertical convergance, do both those numbers have to match?

The 109 convergence should be (based of this document):
MG-FF horizontal: 200m, vertical: 400m
MG-17 horizontal and vertical: 400m

[madrebel]

thanks tom, i think i may have a 190 document very similar to that one. if i find it i'll post for comparisons.

does it seem odd to anyone else that minimum convergence isn't really known? maybe its just me idk.

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by madrebel

thanks tom, i think i may have a 190 document very similar to that one. if i find it i'll post for comparisons.

This one?

[madrebel]

possibly yes.