water cannon episode 2: return of the shotgun

RCAF_FB_Orville · #1 11-06-2011, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

..how seriously do you expect people to take the posts you've made in this thread so far man? We're talking about serious issues and you go completely OT...

Ok. Guns don't stop crimes against personal property.....at all. FACT. How much of the 1 Billion dollars damage in the L.A. Riots did private gun ownership stop, precisely? How many lives did it save? Oh, that's right the ARMY stopped that riot, not 'Charles Bronson' the vigilante.

The majority of burglaries in the UK and probably the US too are committed by people with drug addictions, people who are so desperate for their fix nothing will deter them.

The subject was boring the first time and is more tiresome the second. Comprehensive crime figures and per capita murder rates were provided in that thread by others, which prove that gun ownership does not prevent or mitigate crime. In fact, the more guns present in a country...the higher the homicide rate (shock, horror) . A far higher police murder rate, too.

People need guns in the US because they live in a climate of fear. Everyone else has a gun....woah I need one too. A bigger one. Lets not forget that a legal gun owner with no previous is a 'law abiding good citizen', till he/she decides to shoot someone. Sad times when you are so scared for your safety and so terrified you feel you can't go out at night without one. End. Of. Story.

Not interested in this debate as it does not affect me. The vast majority of British people do not want guns, or want increased access or availability, full stop. Other countries can do what they want, up to them and I'm happy for em.

Seems groups like the Brady campaign aren't so keen. 83,000 people have been shot this year so far in the States, with 175 people shot today alone. The death toll is typically around the 12,000 a year mark. That's not counting the many thousands more maimed and incapacitated for life.....many of them children in terrible accidents. Incredible. Like I say, let em get on with it....Fair dinkum.

Have fun.

baronWastelan · #2 11-06-2011, 08:38 PM

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Not interested in this debate...

Thanks for letting us know! I was really beginning to wonder

Sternjaeger II · #3 11-06-2011, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RCAF_FB_Orville

Ok. Guns don't stop crimes against personal property.....at all. FACT. How much of the 1 Billion dollars damage in the L.A. Riots did private gun ownership stop, precisely? How many lives did it save? Oh, that's right the ARMY stopped that riot, not 'Charles Bronson' the vigilante.

have a look and see how many properties with armed owners were broken into, genius..

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The majority of burglaries in the UK and probably the US too are committed by people with drug addictions, people who are so desperate for their fix nothing will deter them.

That is a bit of a narrow view, which probably applies to your neck of the woods.

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The subject was boring the first time and is more tiresome the second. Comprehensive crime figures and per capita murder rates were provided in that thread by others, which prove that gun ownership does not prevent or mitigate crime. In fact, the more guns present in a country...the higher the homicide rate (shock, horror) . A far higher police murder rate, too.

People need guns in the US because they live in a climate of fear. Everyone else has a gun....woah I need one too. A bigger one. Lets not forget that a legal gun owner with no previous is a 'law abiding good citizen', till he/she decides to shoot someone. Sad times when you are so scared for your safety and so terrified you feel you can't go out at night without one. End. Of. Story.

Not interested in this debate as it does not affect me. The vast majority of British people do not want guns, or want increased access or availability, full stop. Other countries can do what they want, up to them and I'm happy for em.

I figured you applied to the category I mentioned above..
What you don't seem (or want) to understand is that thousands of people have guns here and you can still get a license, it's a matter of culture.

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Seems groups like the Brady campaign aren't so keen. 83,000 people have been shot this year so far in the States, with 175 people shot today alone. The death toll is typically around the 12,000 a year mark. That's not counting the many thousands more maimed and incapacitated for life.....many of them children in terrible accidents. Incredible. Like I say, let em get on with it....Fair dinkum.

Have fun.

you're looking at numbers without taking demographics and different cultures I'm afraid. But as you said, you don'y really care for this topic, so why you keep on posting your hysterical wuss talk about guns?

winny · #4 11-06-2011, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

That is a bit of a narrow view, which probably applies to your neck of the woods.

Oops, there you go again.. Regional stereotyping

So basically, to get this straight.. you're saying all Geordies are narrow minded?

How very narrow minded of you.

Sternjaeger II · #5 11-06-2011, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by winny

Oops, there you go again.. Regional stereotyping

So basically, to get this straight.. you're saying all Geordies are narrow minded?

How very narrow minded of you.

I was wondering how long it would take you to join the party

Did I say "all you Geordies are the same"? No, so stop accusing me of things I didn't do.