water cannon episode 2: return of the shotgun

[ATAG_Doc]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

I agree, different country, but same kind of riots of the UK.

I watch trends on Amazon and saw that baseball bats made of aluminum and wood and police batons went to top spot in the UK. One bat had its sales jump 52,000% in one day when the riots started over there.

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

I agree, different country, but same kind of riots of the UK.

One armed man kept a bunch of scumbags well away of his property, while here we sat down and said "oh well, insurances will pay for it"..

apart for the idiotic idea of insurances paying for it (because, let's face it, their premiums in the UK have raised, since we ALL have to pay more via car, home and other insurances), tell me how a money refund can fix this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...on-attack.html

There's no point in arguing about this anymore, truth is that most men here have been deprived of their sense of pride and courage to defend things they care for, delegating such responsibilities to others..

the few brave ones that try and fight the violence end up like this here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14500869

A 12 gauge shotgun is a very good alternative for dealing with a bunch of rioting cowards. Obviously, with a shotgun you could only shoot a couple people. Most don't hold more than three shells... no one of the cowards will attack even knowing that, because they don't want to be the one that gets shot. Just a bunch of flipping cowards raising hell is all it is.

You can also fill a few shotgun shells with rocksalt and shoot them. At the time of the shooting they wouldn't know what was going down, but would they scatter fast. Rocksalt won't kill anyone, but it may make them wish they were dead for a few days. LOL

They have interviewed rioters many times, and they don't even know why they are making riots. Many intereviews with the stupid rioters has revealed they don't know what they are doing, except joining into the riots because it seems like a good idea.

All those rioters put in jail for destroying property should face lawsuits for damages to property and persons. Just slap big old judgments against the lot of them. Ruin their credit and give them jail time. The only reason they riot is because there will be no recourse. The politicians don't want that, they just want them to go away quietly.

It is sad for UK, not having the right to bear arms. There will a come a day UK will have real regrets about that. The problems haven't even started in Europe, this summer of riots is the tip of the iceberg.

[Sternjaeger II]

nearmiss, it's a common misconception, the UK citizen haven't been deprived of the right to bear arms, you can still have bolt action rifles, shotguns and semiauto 22s, I think it's more of a case of being deprived of common sense..

It's a good ol' Empire thing to show that things can be done their way and be right (take the driving on the other side for instance), especially when they're blatantly unorthodox. Truth is that people live a bit in denial here, and even when things affect them personally, they sit and wonder why nobody came to the rescue..

[bongodriver]

why do people find driving on the right so weird?...it just seems sensible that as most people are right handed that the natural driving style of on hand on the wheel and the gear shift leaves the dominant (right) hand in charge of actually steering the vehicle......it's also pretty usefull for pointing your gun hand out the window while doing a drive by

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Truth is that people live a bit in denial here, and even when things affect them personally, they sit and wonder why nobody came to the rescue..

When the great storm Katrina was on it's way to New Orleans the people were told to get out now, evacuate! They had several days to do it, and most took that advice.

Yet, you could read and view interviews with people that were not leaving. Many died as a result. Sadly, there were over 300 school buses sitting in a compound that could have been used to evacuate many who did not have adequate transport. The mayor neglected to take that action. Those buses were still in the compound when the storm hit.

One commentator put it very bluntly. The government has taken the role of the mighty protector and defender for so long thousands of people are sitting and waiting for the government to do something about taking care of them while the storm is headed their way.

It's not about country, it's about citizens of any country that have become too dependent upon government for the most basic things.
Common senses have departed many individuals as a result, and evidently intelligence and self-reliance are gone as well.

[Hood]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

nearmiss, it's a common misconception, the UK citizen haven't been deprived of the right to bear arms... I think it's more of a case of being deprived of common sense..

Let me understand you. Guns are allowed (with certain restrictions and licensing etc) but the fact that other weapons are not allowed is evidence that the peoples of the UK are being deprived of their common sense? Or is it that the lack of common sense has led to us being deprived of the right to bear whatever arms we want?

I presume that either option is evidence that citiznes of the UK have not exercised their own judgment or their right to vote? Please explain, without references to "sheep" etc as that is just insulting.

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

It's a good ol' Empire thing to show that things can be done their way and be right (take the driving on the other side for instance), especially when they're blatantly unorthodox. Truth is that people live a bit in denial here, and even when things affect them personally, they sit and wonder why nobody came to the rescue..

The following link might hold the truth about driving on the left, though I don't understand why that is seen as evidence of Empire unorthodoxy. Explain please.

http://www.2pass.co.uk/goodluck.htm

There is a thing called the "Blitz spirit" that occurs quite often. After the riots in fact. It means that we help each other in times of need. I'm not really sure when exactly we need to be rescued.

My own view about living in denial is we deny that we help others too much rather than helping our own. We're probably going to have to pay a lot to bail out the Eurozone.

Originally Posted by nearmiss

It is sad for UK, not having the right to bear arms. There will a come a day UK will have real regrets about that. The problems haven't even started in Europe, this summer of riots is the tip of the iceberg.

Do you know the lottery numbers too?


What is amazing is the style of disagreement. Those in the UK are saying "We don't want guns but if you want them in your country/culture that's fine". Those not of this country (or culture in Stern's case) are saying "Without guns you are wusses, your free will has been eroded and you're all going to pay for it."

Is there any chance of leaving it at that?

Hood


ps It is interesting that "clever" and sly, inflammatory insults are passing unmoderated.