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Old 11-03-2011, 09:57 PM
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ROF demo is unlimited now (free game with 2 planes flyable)....you still must buy all the other planes...that is if you want to fly something else besides the two...and you want, if your serious with ROF
Yeah, my day one RoF account (western euro release), which was about as expensive as my day one CoD has now been redesignated "lite" (which means it's no less than twice as big as the free demo..) and they are offering me a generous discount of 15$ on the upgrade to "ICE" level, as opposed to an upgrade from the free demo. Thank you very much. I hope the money i initially gave you is invested well, because there won't be any more coming from my direction.

The game itself, while having received some serious technical improvements, now looks like a huge nag-screen where 90% of all options presented are only available upon further payment. The shareware of old has never been as bad. CoD, meanwhile, has already given me the first free plane addon, two if you count the 4/B as a separate model.

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Old 11-03-2011, 10:30 PM
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But like thos BidNow sites and the $20.00 iPad2s, just because a 3rd party retailer puts something on sale, doesn't mean the manufacturer wants it sold at that price, or that they are going out of business.
what?!
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Old 11-04-2011, 05:03 AM
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Downloading now.
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Old 11-04-2011, 05:53 AM
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What I mean by that statement, is JustFlight's pricing does not have to be officially sanctioned by 1c. Note that Steam is not selling it for that price, so it's not like this is an across the board price cut. This could be a way for a single retailer to get the volume up enough for their next price cut (prices are normally set by volume). Or this could be a method to drum up traffic (not just for CoD, but for their other products as well).

In the case of the BidNow sales, obviously, Apple does not sell the iPad 2 for $20.00, and just because 1 website was "selling" them for that, doesn't indicate Apple is going out of business.
If you dont want retailers to sell your product cheap, you shouldn't supply it cheap in the first place. So, whose fault is it? 1Cs.
I also dont think you can really sell masses of Clod, so this is unlikely too.
Cookie? Cookies usually are never sold below cost, on the other hand selling a key, is not like having a gas station where sell the fuel at cost but expect the customer to pick up other things like drinks and snacks to make up for the missing profit. This does work if you sell hardware online but not if you only sell software. It not like you visit their homepage and go like: "Wow, cool Clod for $12! No I'm here, let's buy a copy of footballmanger 2012 too."

The way I see it there a two options:
A: Some retailer preordered(I don't know this business, others work like that, maybe it's bs) too many and can't return them, looking at the price it must be an east European one. Which leads to the next point: Pricing related to buying power in different countries. Sounds fair, but you'll end up with a mess like this. This is software, not a big mac.
B: Sales collapsed, they are giving a super discount to collect at least a few bucks. Worst scenario, it it was true its the end.

My guess(and hope) is A.
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Old 11-04-2011, 06:51 AM
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'Just Flight' is more geared toward civilian sims (MS FS etc) and sell some high end sim stuff for cessna's, airliners etc. A combat flight sim is going to make up a tiny percentage of their business, and I doubt they have sold many, so are not that bothered with it.
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Old 11-04-2011, 07:44 AM
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Have a look at Origin's Battlefield 3 PC support forums (maybe have to be registered with Origin - it is like a new Steam competitor). This multi-zillion $$$ launch is a complete disaster compared to CloD in terms of performance, crashes (10-20 minutes), user-friendliness, software and even hardware compatibility issues.

This is how PC gaming works nowadays. The next best flightsim after Il-2 will come out on consoles or gamepads in 2021

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Old 11-03-2011, 04:49 PM
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Just Flight is fine, I used it a few times. If its cheaper, more people will buy it. What new game doesn't get cheaper?
On another note, RoF is free now...
It was an offer i couldn't refuse and even though i need to upgrade my computer and get win7 instead of xp2 i consider it something for the future.
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:32 PM
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First off, almost all games drops in price within a year, there are very few exceptions. Nintendo's first-party games are exceptions, parents will pay for Mario at any cost. Regarding financing for the sequel(s), they wouldn't start development if financing wasn't already secured, it's business after all not poker.
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Old 11-03-2011, 09:51 PM
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Just Flight is fine, I used it a few times. If its cheaper, more people will buy it. What new game doesn't get cheaper?
On another note, RoF is free now...
1. the demand curve is not that elastic
2. don't expect too many new players
3. ROF uses the business model King Gillette invented
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Old 11-06-2011, 05:45 PM
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Just Flight is fine, I used it a few times. If its cheaper, more people will buy it. What new game doesn't get cheaper?
On another note, RoF is free now...
yea new games get cheaper but not from 50-60$ to like 12$ in less than a year....usually most modern games wont reduce their price by even $10 untill after a year, or so...i wish with all games i can wait 7 or 8 months and be able to pay 15$ for the game...this is totally unprecedented, but you are trying to say that this is normal and everything is fine....

also RoF, has a different business model, and thus might be able to make profit based on the new planes and additions...
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