What's up with the trains

[DayGlow]

I'll take real pilots testimony over an interweb hero any day on both accounts

[CaptainDoggles]

Pilots can be mistaken. You're probably one of those guys that reads an account saying "My spitfire turned inside the 109" without any info as to speed, altitude, or even which spitfire or which 109, and then decides that ALL spitfires must out-turn ALL 109s under ALL conditions.

That's the problem with blindly following pilot accounts.

It's not interweb heroics, it's mathematics. Math doesn't change from the 1940s to today. Memories given in post-war interviews do change.

[DayGlow]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Pilots can be mistaken. You're probably one of those guys that reads an account saying "My spitfire turned inside the 109" without any info as to speed, altitude, or even which spitfire or which 109, and then decides that ALL spitfires must out-turn ALL 109s under ALL conditions.

That's the problem with blindly following pilot accounts.

It's not interweb heroics, it's mathematics. Math doesn't change from the 1940s to today. Memories given in post-war interviews do change.

So our heros are liars then? How can we believe they shot a plane down, they could have been mistaken, hell they were probably in the infantry through the war and forgot and now believe they flew planes.

[CaptainDoggles]

Did I say they were liars? Don't put words in my mouth, son.

I said they can be mistaken.

[furbs]

50 cals can flip Tigers right over!!

[Sven]

Originally Posted by furbs

50 cals can flip Tigers right over!!

I can even flip a King tigers over with a well aimed fart, Yankee P51 pilots sure as hell could!

I mean c'mon, Yankees won the war right?

[Tiger27]

Originally Posted by DayGlow

I'll take real pilots testimony over an interweb hero any day on both accounts

I'm just re reading The Hardest day by Alfred Price, and it is clear that you cant always rely on pilots testimony, he describes one German bomber that was claimed by up to 4 pilots, all had attacked it and seen it go down smoking, so all gave factual accounts of what they saw, it was what they didnt see that was the problem, how would a pilot know for sure that when he attacked the Tiger tank it wasn't also under artillery attack at the same time, it's that old fog or war.

As for the cannons or bullets knocking a train off a track, well that's just not possible, unless of course the boiler explodes or a shell may damage the tracks and derail it but most times you would think the boiler would be hit from the top and just let off a huge fountain of steam.