Luthier Update Clarification Please

[kendo65]

Ace - your interpretation concerning DX11 support is wrong. That statement from Oleg means exactly what it implies, that the game would use DX11 features, i.e. it was intended to be a DX11 game.

Luthier said shortly after release that they attempted a DX11 implementation but had to shelve it temporarily as it was too buggy. Presumably they have been concentrating on other features in the meantime and eventually we will get to see DX11 working in COD.

It never ceases to amaze me how people can adopt such a lawyer-like butchery of the English language in an attempt to prove they are right.

The confusion regarding DX11 implementation in the release publicity is down to the somewhat chaotic way that it was all handled - essentially marketing/publicity were a step or two behind the developers and were still touting a temporarily deprecated feature.

the bottom line is - game is released in alpha state; was unplayable on most machines, lacking proper FSAA (still is), with crap sounds, full screen missing, full video options, etc (not to mention the circus with epileptic filter)....we can talk about bugs and how sims are complicated etc....but if majority of folks had literally slideshows after the game was released.....and we still have serious performance issus (example, when the dust and other effects are near, when more planes are near down low etc.) then we have the right to be disappointed.

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

the bottom line is - game is released in alpha state; was unplayable on most machines, lacking proper FSAA (still is), with crap sounds, full screen missing, full video options, etc (not to mention the circus with epileptic filter)....we can talk about bugs and how sims are complicated etc....but if majority of folks had literally slideshows after the game was released.....and we still have serious performance issus (example, when the dust and other effects are near, when more planes are near down low etc.)....

All of which happened several months ago. It's long past time that people stopped whining about it.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

the bottom line is - game is released in alpha state; was unplayable on most machines, lacking proper FSAA (still is), with crap sounds, full screen missing, full video options, etc (not to mention the circus with epileptic filter)....we can talk about bugs and how sims are complicated etc....but if majority of folks had literally slideshows after the game was released.....and we still have serious performance issus (example, when the dust and other effects are near, when more planes are near down low etc.) then we have the right to be disappointed.

Bottom line is we got everything that was advertised and more

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Bottom line is we got everything that was advertised and more

"We don't have AA in this picture because the PC used was old..."

Stop, please...

Originally Posted by kendo65

Ace - your interpretation concerning DX11 support is wrong. That statement from Oleg means exactly what it implies, that the game would use DX11 features, i.e. it was intended to be a DX11 game.

Luthier said shortly after release that they attempted a DX11 implementation but had to shelve it temporarily as it was too buggy. Presumably they have been concentrating on other features in the meantime and eventually we will get to see DX11 working in COD.

It never ceases to amaze me how people can adopt such a lawyer-like butchery of the English language in an attempt to prove they are right.

The confusion regarding DX11 implementation in the release publicity is down to the somewhat chaotic way that it was all handled - essentially marketing/publicity were a step or two behind the developers and were still touting a temporarily deprecated feature.

This is 100% correct.

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by kendo65

Ace - your interpretation concerning DX11 support is wrong. That statement from Oleg means exactly what it implies, that the game would use DX11 features, i.e. it was intended to be a DX11 game.

Luthier said shortly after release that they attempted a DX11 implementation but had to shelve it temporarily as it was too buggy. Presumably they have been concentrating on other features in the meantime and eventually we will get to see DX11 working in COD.

It never ceases to amaze me how people can adopt such a lawyer-like butchery of the English language in an attempt to prove they are right.

The confusion regarding DX11 implementation in the release publicity is down to the somewhat chaotic way that it was all handled - essentially marketing/publicity were a step or two behind the developers and were still touting a temporarily deprecated feature.

That's 200% correct.

New 3D engine – Latest-gen graphics engine with DX10 and DX11 API support. Huge variety of photorealistic ground vehicles, buildings and other environmental elements recreate minute details of 1940s Europe.

That's the simple point, no subject for discussion.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

That's 200% correct.

New 3D engine – Latest-gen graphics engine with DX10 and DX11 API support. Huge variety of photorealistic ground vehicles, buildings and other environmental elements recreate minute details of 1940s Europe.

That's the simple point, no subject for discussion.

Clearly you are confused as to the definition of API support.. Take a moment and read my last post with the Microsoft links that described what DX 11 API support provides.. Assuming you want to learn and not whine?

[kendo65]

You are still wrong Aces - either willfully or through ignorance.

Any sensible, plain English interpretation of what is meant by 'DX11 game' or 'DX11 supported' is that specific DX 11 features will be used in the game. This is what was intended to happen with COD. It is what the developers were working on. It is what Oleg was referring to in the link.

None-implementation of any specifically DX11 features means the game is not currently DX11 in any reasonable meaning of the term - certainly for trade description and legal purposes I don't think any company would attempt to take the line that you seem to be suggesting.

Whether it uses feature levels to provide backwards compatibility with DX 9, 10 or 10.1 hardware or some previous means of doing so is immaterial.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by kendo65

You are still wrong Aces - either willfully or through ignorance.

Any sensible, plain English interpretation of what is meant by 'DX11 game' or 'DX11 supported' is that specific DX 11 features will be used in the game. This is what was intended to happen with COD. It is what the developers were working on. It is what Oleg was referring to in the link.

None-implementation of any specifically DX11 features means the game is not currently DX11 in any reasonable meaning of the term - certainly for trade description and legal purposes I don't think any company would attempt to take the line that you seem to be suggesting.

Whether it uses feature levels to provide backwards compatibility with DX 9, 10 or 10.1 hardware or some previous means of doing so is immaterial.

As I noted above.. I think those who want to learn will see that now and correct themselves.. As for those that just want a reason to whine.. Well no amount of information is going to change what they think.