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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 10-19-2011, 04:24 PM
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Old 10-20-2011, 01:47 AM
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My own real life experience is that it is very hard to see aircraft from another aircraft. Even if it would be many pixels. An aluminium colored aircraft reflects the surounding sky, unless you get the glimmer of the sun, you just don't see it.

Your eyes just dont cover a very big part of the sky from a cockpit. If you are on the ground, the aircraft you are looking at has a light background, and there is only half of a sphere to look at. In the air of course you need to look under also.

A dark helicopter flying over a forest seen from a higher plane is just a white or yellow seemingly empty ring (the blade tips, very important)...dark on top of dark. To me it is a lot easier to see an aircraft in any sim than in real life. We don't even have clouds to speak of in CoD or rain, haze.

I can see why it is so important in the game ( I haven't tried CoD online yet), it is just as in real life...
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Old 10-20-2011, 04:54 AM
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now for me major problem is the lack of FSAA jaggies make forms quite confusing a the state of the game now, when the FSAA will be implemented in the sim we are going to have more clear scene
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Old 10-20-2011, 05:55 AM
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+1 just ended an online session. server time was at dawn, so extremely poor conditions about visibility, murky terrain and bright sky, very contrasted. I was at 1000 when I spot at 3 miles (extimated) a dot, I head on it, it's 2 inches above the horizon well visible. He, for sure, see me and the situation evolves in a direct head to head, he is higher than me and put the nose some degrees down towards me...I think friendorfoe? friendorfoe? friendorfoe? ...the distances decrease rapidly and suddenly he blends completely in the dark landscape; I lose sight of it for 4 seconds, I mantain my heading looking for it zooming in and out....the epilogue...my wings are shaken by his shots...FOE!... Managed to return to base.
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I agree the visibility of E/A is a problem in CloD even for those who have a great eyesight...I think another cause may be the terrain that keeps to much detail even at medium altitude. The land texture scaling must be tuned. Devs implemented the terrain with a lot of detail but this LOD is mantained constant going up in altitude (at least until certain altitudes). Too many signs that blend together.

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Old 10-20-2011, 09:12 AM
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i have really healthy eyes, and never had a problem in to spot planes in IL2 1946.sure it was still hard, and maybe to identify the target was harder than it would in reality, but as soon i spottet a plane, i could without a problem, follow it and keep contact...

in CLOD its much worse!!!there always was the problem of big black dots in the distance, and as soon as you come closer, the dots became smaller and changed colour to a bright grey, which was very hard to see whether the background was sky,water or terrain...

i think the devs are aware of the problem and thats why it was changed several times now since the release....for example in the first beta before this official patch, we had those white dots which where clearly visible(and also through terrain).they were ugly and could be considered as cheat...

however since the latest patch, we have the worst situation...i play because of performance reasons with a very low resolution of 1024x768, and now, while i think that the dots far in distance are looking more real, as soon the aircraft comes closer, it begins to shimmer(meaning some pixels of the shape, just take the colour of the background)...so it becomes partly invisible.... but thats not the biggest problem....when you come really close....600m-300m, the aircraft will become totally invisible for several seconds.and i mean totally invisible.its like a stealth fighter of the next generation.

this problem has to be solved quickly now.since the latest official patch, i didnt fly online yet, but i even had problems to keep sight on the stupid AI, which is normally really easy to shoot.so i dont think that i will even try to go online until a acceptable solution is found.
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I can't ID planes until I am on top of them, at a certain distance they are just a shimmering, disappearing shape.
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Old 10-20-2011, 11:42 AM
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The teamkilling is really annoying as well, mostly due to this issue. I got shot down 3 times in a row several nights ago on ATAG by my own teammates. I was very much annoyed to say the least... It happens, but c'mon that's rediculous. On top of that I was flying blue side so I would fly all the way across the channel just to get bounced by a friendly 109.
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