Merlin negative G cutout too quick?

[41Sqn_Banks]

The throttle also had to be closed when negativ g cut out occured. IIRC Reason is that when the throttle remains opened and the fuel flow is restored the engine might overrev as power is regain so quickly that the CSP can't react quick enough.

[ZaltysZ]

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Banks

The throttle also had to be closed when negativ g cut out occured. IIRC Reason is that when the throttle remains opened and the fuel flow is restored the engine might overrev as power is regain so quickly that the CSP can't react quick enough.

Engine starves briefly at first and then gets flooded with fuel, because things get reversed: the more fuel you have in float chamber, the more fuel you get into it. Tilly orifice simply restricted fuel flow to amount engine needs at max power setting, so even when things are reversed, float chamber gets no more fuel than engine can burn (at max power setting). Lower the fuel usage (cut the throttle or lower the RPM), and Tilly orifice won't prevent the flooding anymore. Without orifice things are the same, except engine gets flooded even at max power setting.

Running engine at max RPM and open throttle softens the flooding by some extent, but recovering with same settings can indeed result in overrev. It is probably better to cut the throttle just before recovery and not the moment cut out occurs - this seems more optimal.

[Crumpp]

Did you watch the video? I was referring to the video.

Rolling upside down is not a negative G maneuver, it is positive G. I do it sometimes the time in my plane.

[JtD]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

Rolling upside down is not a negative G maneuver, it is positive G. I do it sometimes the time in my plane.

Watch the video.

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

Rolling upside down is not a negative G maneuver, it is positive G. I do it sometimes the time in my plane.

You didn't watch the video. It's not a roll, it's an inverted flypast. I don't see the prop windmill but regardless if I did this move in game it would most certainly cut out completely.

[Crumpp]

It's not a roll, it's an inverted flypast.

It is definately NOT a float carburetor then.

[klem]

Originally Posted by Osprey

You didn't watch the video. It's not a roll, it's an inverted flypast. I don't see the prop windmill but regardless if I did this move in game it would most certainly cut out completely.

Its more a case of listening to the engine. It cuts to occasional firing.

[GF_Mastiff]

ROFL that dog sure was at zero G's lol

[TomcatViP]

Pls guys makes sure you are watching the video with sound tuned to max. There is no doubt that the engine is starving even if the pilot (excellent - hvn't read this until now) did throttle down.

A good surprise also is how the pilot over-quick the rudder when half rolling back to a normal attitude to add some positive G in the roll. I do that on CoD and it works perfectly. A real positive sign of how good this sim is !

[JtD]

Originally Posted by ZaltysZ

Engine starves briefly at first and then gets flooded with fuel, because things get reversed: the more fuel you have in float chamber, the more fuel you get into it. Tilly orifice simply restricted fuel flow to amount engine needs at max power setting, so even when things are reversed, float chamber gets no more fuel than engine can burn (at max power setting). Lower the fuel usage (cut the throttle or lower the RPM), and Tilly orifice won't prevent the flooding anymore. Without orifice things are the same, except engine gets flooded even at max power setting.

Running engine at max RPM and open throttle softens the flooding by some extent, but recovering with same settings can indeed result in overrev. It is probably better to cut the throttle just before recovery and not the moment cut out occurs - this seems more optimal.

Yes but...

if you cut throttle there's less air flow to suck the fuel out of the jet nozzle, so the engine does not get flooded as much. It's true what he said, it was recommended to cut throttle during neg g manoeuvres, in order to get the engine "get going earlier".

Throttle also had to be reduced and was not to be applied quickly due to low oil pressure in (longer) neg g manoeuvres.