a/c flite models

[BSS_Sniper]

The balloon bounce for landings happens way too often and is unrealistic to me. It's a rare thing to ever get a halfway decent landing in here. I think its way off.

[msalama]

I think its way off.

Can't agree w/ this. The airspeed and attitude - and thus your sink rate - are the keys. Heck, I'll make some tutorial tracks some of these days if I have the time and you'll see...

[robtek]

even in RL it is not that easy to do a really smooth landing with a cessna 150 or a pa28 if
you are not a regular flyer.
Those simulated warbirds dont have that easy handling like those planes.
and last but not least : feedback, flying by the seat of your pants, those slight indications when the airflow leaves the wings are missing.
those missing things can only be replaced by training, training and more training.

[Bobb4]

I agree, practice is what you lack.
My guess is you are flaring and cutting throttle at the last minute to allow yourself to drop onto the strip.
A smooth landing requires forward momentum to be maintained and only once down do you cut throttle to the extent that it no longer providing enough speed for lift.
Try touch and goes to perfect this.
Come in land but continue down the runway and take off at the end.
This is how most real-life pilots get the hang of it and it has worked with me on the sim.
Lastly different planes have different landing speeds and characteristics. So just because you can land a 109 on a dime as smooth as water flowing over ice, does not mean you can land a heavy 190 as easy.

[BSS_Sniper]

Originally Posted by robtek

even in RL it is not that easy to do a really smooth landing with a cessna 150 or a pa28 if
you are not a regular flyer.
Those simulated warbirds dont have that easy handling like those planes.
and last but not least : feedback, flying by the seat of your pants, those slight indications when the airflow leaves the wings are missing.
those missing things can only be replaced by training, training and more training.

The thing is, I am a regular flier. I fly for hours a day in real life. It doesn't matter how slow you come in and how you flare and let it sink in slowly. The second your gear gently touches down, you BALLOON up in the air. It's off and is too touchy in here. Also, there should be a huge difference in landing on grass and concrete runways. Any landing other than a burn in should be nice and smooth on grass.

[Robert]

Realistic or not. Broken or bad flying. No matter what the cause it's not going to be corrected. IL2 is done.

[BadAim]

The biggest complaints I hear from pilots of actual aircraft (when flying IL2) is the lack of tactile feedback and the feeling of the weight of the aircraft, the former is a long way off to resolution, lets hope the latter is better done in SOW. But I do aggree that practice is the best medicine.

[Abbeville-Boy]

if you have a bounce it means that your flare off timing, altitude, is off a bit, practice will cure that

[Therion_Prime]

Originally Posted by BSS_Sniper

The thing is, I am a regular flier. I fly for hours a day in real life. It doesn't matter how slow you come in and how you flare and let it sink in slowly. The second your gear gently touches down, you BALLOON up in the air. It's off and is too touchy in here. Also, there should be a huge difference in landing on grass and concrete runways. Any landing other than a burn in should be nice and smooth on grass.

I'd guess that modern aircraft have way better suspensions?

[Bearcat]

Hey Sniper... just curious... is there another sim out that you think gets that aspect of the FMs better than this one? Whats your take on the FSX FMs.