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10 | 31.25% |
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#2
09-30-2011, 05:41 PM
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if they really want a screen shot...everyone has a cell phone with a camera. shot the scoreboard then forward it to your email. i do this at work all the time with stuff...works very well.
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10-01-2011, 12:21 AM
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Mavrickandgoose,
PS3 or XBOX? I also need your id (PSN/gamertag) MckinneyJD, PS3 or XBOX? (PSN/Gamertag) U2711AZ, What is your xbox gamertag? Also, I see what you mean assigning different planes to home and away maps in order to, in some way, give home pilots a little advantage, however, I would really prefer to keep it a one plane only tournament. I think that having to choose your own, favorite map (and side of the map) is a good enough advantage. Robotic pope & Bobbysocks, Both ideas for reporting results for xbox are great and I had considered, I was not sure though if everyone could be able to submit a photo from a personal camera (phone). I only would need the winner (flight lead) to report results and the defeated (flight lead) to report results in order to confirm. Photos will be more reliable than actually having to write down all of the 4 players' stats for the match results, you guys think we can work with xbox participants in order to make this photo result reporting possible? I-16, I am with MAC, the I-16 may not have combat flaps like all other planes and this may seem to make SIM mode with these planes more like a REALISTIC mode, however, this plane has an engine problem if not handled adequately and this is something that other planes dont have and will make the plane a little more tricky to fly than being able to set flaps. Besides, if you really cant live without flaps on SIM mode you can try using your landing gear for those tight turns or slow speed maneuverability. Idea, please post opinion: All teams will be composed of a Flight Lead and a Wingman, were the purpose of the Flight Lead will be to report results to me or Robotic Pope. However, I was thinking of taking this a little further and see if it will add a little more to having a more "tactical 2v2 tournament", nothing too crazy ofcourse. So the idea would be to reward (little more points) the team that is able to down the enemy's Flight Lead (or maybe make the Flight Lead's deaths count as double). I dont want to make the tournament revolve around this idea I just thought it would make it a little more interesting. What do you think? Thank you all for posting 
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10-01-2011, 02:12 AM
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edal i think this is possible. i do this all the time for reports i write. i take a pic with the camera on my phone then send it to my email address. then i can either forward that pic to another email or save as an attachment to post on a website. most everyone on xbox has a mic and we talk in the lobby...i think we can iron it out.
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10-01-2011, 04:39 PM
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Opninions:
Plane I had some matches the last days in the I-16, and found it fun to dogfight in, but I have some thoughts about it being the chosen for this tournament. The I-16 is a slow plane. From my experience from the P51 tourney, there will be different maps in use, with different spawn areas. In the P51 tournament there was a lot of time flying to get positions and after kills get to fly away due to the disengagement rule. Flying the I-16 under these circumstances seems to gain a disadvantage of the purpose of the tournament. There will be a lot of flying, and less fighting. Figure it as we have to team up, fly in position, locate the enemy, there might just be about the time when your engine shut down at the point when battle engages. If we are tho honor the Devs, what about some other russian plane, IL4, Il2 M or maybe the IL 10 ? Yes, I was kidding. we got great fighters like LA-5, LA-7 and the yaks...... Scoring How to locate wingman or wingleader ? we all got same skins ?
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10-01-2011, 08:26 PM
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2v2 sounds intresting, just a thought russian plane to say thanks to devs is cool so in my mind its got to be the best plane in the game which happens to be russian, the LA7, fast plane great turns makes a great game,
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10-01-2011, 11:07 PM
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Important Discussion, please read and post opinion
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Thanks for your post. You may be right, the I-16 engine dies out very quickly especially if you use WEP for long periods of time (flying across maps). I would not like the idea of my ammo outlasting my engine if you know what I mean. However, the LA's are out of the question, they are simply too easy and perfect to fly. I would go more for the YAK's. Also, this way we can have different variants to choose from. Again, regarding scoring for downing a Flight Lead, you will know at the end of the match or whenever you die how many times your team has killed the opponent's flight lead. Your opponent may not know who is your team's Flight lead during the dogfight but you will, and you will have to not only worry about bringing your enemy's planes down but also about working with your wingman in order to prevent your flight lead from being shot down (as much). Or maybe,by using YAKs, we can now be able to distinguish the wingman from the flight lead by having teams fly different variants of the YAK. Keep posting please, and comment on the discussion above, this is what is building up this tournament; your suggestions. Thank you again
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10-02-2011, 12:45 AM
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Here's my 2 cents on the recent comments and suggestions.
First, about the wingleader / wingman idea. For me it seems to unnecessarily complicate things, as in a modern 2 aircraft flight section these roles are pretty interchangable ( -> Loose Deuce Tactics). And which ever element of the section is being shot down, it's an equally great loss for the strength of that section. Next, about the I-16. There is no inherently built in necessity to burn the engine out by overusing WEP. The engine runs just fine if you don't do this and don't negative G it too much. This really adds a dimension most other planes are lacking of, and remember: Birds of Steel will feature some more complex engine management options in the highest levels of the game, so this might also be a good preparation. I can also not agree with the arguement that there may not be enough fighting if we're using this plane. The distances are really not that big, and even with the disengagement rule applied we should see plenty of contact opportunities for two aggressive teams facing off (there will however always be the possiblity that one team prefers defensive tactics and wait for having the upper hand before engaging - this choice remains with each team, no matter what aircraft is used). The I-16 is Russian, has its challenges, and most imortantly, is a unique fun airplane with it's open cockpit and maneuverability. So I'd really not see why it shouldn't be a suitable plane for the tournament. The way I see it, it should be up to the tournament's organizer to decide on the plane/s which he wants to allow. This would really be Edal in this case as I've only given the initial impulse, but all the organizing is being done by Edal this time. So I'm only voicing my opinion here, but Edal, please decide. One last question. What do you think of the idea that if one team member is killed it counts as if the whole team was killed, so essentially each kill/death counts double? This way the remaining team member would have the choice of remaining on the battlefield facing a big disadvantage (and the chance of another 2 point loss), or bailing and respawning very closely to his teammate with the chance of regrouping for a fresh encounter. This way we'd most likely keep the concept of 2vs2 intact. MAC
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