The Battle of Britain Was The First Defeat For The German Luftwaffe.

[adonys]

well, on a philosophical perspective.. it seems that the vast majority of the people, no matter the time or era, are blind and deaf and stupid idiots, who would not see the forest from the trees.

There's no point in trying to debate this, as long as people are throwing in name calling, and view any attempt to look at any other (god forbid to try and do it from the german) point of view than the british/allied one as neo-nazism or worse..

This is the main reason history repeat itself, and it's a very sad thing to see..

[JimmyBlonde]

I'm thinking on starting a pool to bet on whether this thread will hit 100 pages. Any takers?

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by adonys

it seems that the vast majority of the people... are blind and deaf and stupid idiots

There's no point in trying to debate this, as long as people are throwing in name calling

Brilliant. Stunning work.

And now you're suggesting that our point of view is going to lead to history repeating itself. I don't understand that at all. I think that killing is bad, so how can that viewpoint lead to another war?

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

People will believe what their governments tell them to believe, and yet we wonder why the Germans didn't do more to oppose their government. Same question should be asked now of each of our respective governments, but people prefer to be sheep.

Speak for yourself.

[DD_crash]

I think that this is how stern sees it.
Possible outcomes for Germany : Win or Draw
Possible outcome for Britain : Loose or Draw.
We are on a hiding to nothing then.
This thread has developed like Monty Pythons argument sketch

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by DD_crash

I think that this is how stern sees it.
Possible outcomes for Germany : Win or Draw
Possible outcome for Britain : Loose or Draw.
We are on a hiding to nothing then.
This thread has developed like Monty Pythons argument sketch

No it hasn't.

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by DD_crash

This thread has developed like Monty Pythons argument sketch

I'm sorry to resort to insults, but it's like arguing with a 6 year old.

[adonys]

ok, let's make a short analogy here, maybe our islander friends will get it better this way:

if a tiger is fighting a cat, and at some point the tiger has to go away because he has to pee, that doesn't mean the cat won the fight.. right?!!

But go ahead, call it a THE GREATEST VICTORY EVER for my part.

Truth is.. brits always need their big thug nephews help to get our from the mess they've got themselves into (think any other WWII brit operations). Kind of like the italians

But they were great warriors, and look, they won BoB.. Of course they did, otherwise.. what else would have they to celebrate?!! The almighty colonial british empire? Battle of France? Dunkerque? Singapore? Dutch Indies? North Afrika? Market Garden?!!

Using another analogy, is like trying to get away from him the only rotten bone a skinny dog ever had.. of course he'll jump to bite you for trying to get his only reason for life away from him.

It's a normal denial behavior as we know it from kindergarten psychology.

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by adonys

ok, let's make a short analogy here, maybe our islander friends will get it better this way:

It's not just your islander friends that disagree with you.

if a tiger is fighting a cat, and at some point the tiger has to go away because he has to pee, that doesn't mean the cat won the fight.. right?!!

Well it depends why they were fighting. If the cat has territory that the tiger wants, so the tiger attacks the cat, but fails to make the cat go away and instead gets cut up badly, so the tiger goes for a pee and when it comes back it still can't remove the cat, then the tiger lost. Trying to compare the Luftwaffe's inability to win the battle with either a tiger needing a pee or your mates deciding they can't continue a game of football is embarrassing.

But go ahead, call it a THE GREATEST VICTORY EVER for my part.

Truth is.. brits always need their big thug nephews help to get our from the mess they've got themselves into (think any other WWII brit operations). Kind of like the italians

This shows your bias. This isn't about whether Britain are any good at anything or not, it simply a discussion about one battle and whether it was won or not. It doesn't matter who helped whom, who got lucky, who made the wrong decisions, who was commit elsewhere at the same time, simply a case of what the objectives were and whether they were met. But you want to turn it into a willy waving contest. You think that the Brits got themselves into a mess because they didn't sit by and watch Germany take over Europe? What nonsense.

But they were great warriors, and look, they won BoB.. Of course they did, otherwise.. what else would have they to celebrate?!!

We don't need to celebrate anything, but if you asked us what we could celebrate from WWII, then we'd say we celebrate VE day, not the Battle of Britain,d we don' and celebrate VE day thinking we were special or we did anything on our own, we celebrate because the Nazis were stopped and we have freedom thanks to many allies.

Using another analogy, is like trying to get away from him the only rotten bone a skinny dog ever had.. of course he'll jump to bite you for trying to get his only reason for life away from him.

What? You think that the BoB is Britains rotten bone, our only reason for life? You are completely deluded. Most British people don't care a jot about the BoB, most British people don't think of the war except when they're remined on remembrance day. You are so far from reality it's shocking. Take a clip board and go interview some Brits and ask them what they think Britains greatest achievements are - I bet you won't find one single person that says the BoB, because while it was an important victory, it was just one battle in a long history.

[kendo65]

Originally Posted by adonys

ok, let's make a short analogy here, maybe our islander friends will get it better this way:

if a tiger is fighting a cat, and at some point the tiger has to go away because he has to pee, that doesn't mean the cat won the fight.. right?!!

But go ahead, call it a THE GREATEST VICTORY EVER for my part.

Truth is.. brits always need their big thug nephews help to get our from the mess they've got themselves into (think any other WWII brit operations). Kind of like the italians

But they were great warriors, and look, they won BoB.. Of course they did, otherwise.. what else would have they to celebrate?!! The almighty colonial british empire? Battle of France? Dunkerque? Singapore? Dutch Indies? North Afrika? Market Garden?!!

Using another analogy, is like trying to get away from him the only rotten bone a skinny dog ever had.. of course he'll jump to bite you for trying to get his only reason for life away from him.

It's a normal denial behavior as we know it from kindergarten psychology.

Adonys, that post is more than a little insulting. You obviously have some issues with the British for whatever reason, but as the length of your ignore list continues to grow it is obvious that you also have issues with lots of people. Maybe you'd be kind enough to add my name to your list as well.

Cheers.