Reno air crash ( P51 )

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

If drunks died at the same rate as Reno air racers the highways would be covered with dead drunks and their victims.

I am intrigued, do you have a link to some stats on this claim, I would like to give the benefit of doubt on what sound like a wildly exaggerated claim.

Originally Posted by bongodriver

I am intrigued, do you have a link to some stats on this claim, I would like to give the benefit of doubt on what sound like a wildly exaggerated claim.

Google the number of dead at Reno the last few years. I don't know the totals, but it's pretty bad.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

Google the number of dead at Reno the last few years. I don't know the totals, but it's pretty bad.

My first google hit came up with 44 deaths in an 18 year history of Reno air racing.....Christ that's like a busload, can you imagine a busload of people dying every 18years.......carnage, I'm convinced, from now on it's road travel all the way for me.

Oops....I got the figures wrong, it was 18deaths in 44 years

44 in 18 years at Reno is approximately the equivalent of about 150 dying every year at air shows in the US. 150. Every year. How long do you think air shows would last with that sort of casualty rate?

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

44 in 18 years at Reno is approximately the equivalent of about 150 dying every year at air shows in the US. 150. Every year. How long do you think air shows would last with that sort of casualty rate?

No read again, I got it wrong, it's 18 in 44 years, that's like 18 every 44 years by my calculations, 150 a year is something you just made up.

Originally Posted by bongodriver

No read again, I got it wrong, it's 18 in 44 years, that's like 18 every 44 years by my calculations, 150 a year is something you just made up.

The Blue Angels and Thunderbirds fly about 70 shows total every year. If we only count those shows a ratio of 18 deaths for every 44 years is about about 30 air show deaths every year in the US. Even if air shows were not banned we would run out of pilots.

edit it's worse (50ish) if we count all the air shows

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Oops....I got the figures wrong, it was 18deaths in 44 years

That is about 50 air show deaths every year in the US.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

That is about 50 air show deaths every year in the US.

Well no...it's actually .4 deaths year at Reno alone, which is considered to be of the highest fatality rate, in order to have 50 deaths a year there would have to be 125 events with an equivalent average fatality rate a year, but the reality is that air shows as a whole have minuscule fatality rates and that is on a global scale, theres probably less than 50 deaths a year at air shows around the whole world.

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Well no...it's actually .4 deaths year at Reno alone, which is considered to be of the highest fatality rate, in order to have 50 deaths a year there would have to be 125 events with an equivalent average fatality rate a year, but the reality is that air shows as a whole have minuscule fatality rates and that is on a global scale, theres probably less than 50 deaths a year at air shows around the whole world.

That is my point. There are about 140 big air shows each year in the US. If the fatality rate were the same as Reno there would be 30 air show deaths every year. Compared the air racing the fatality rate for air shows is minuscule. Hell, the fatality rate in the Colosseum was probably favorable to air racing.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

That is my point. There are about 140 big air shows each year in the US. If the fatality rate were the same as Reno there would be 30 air show deaths every year. Compared the air racing the fatality rate for air shows is minuscule. Hell, the fatality rate in the Colosseum was probably favorable to air racing.

Well no, you were trying to make some weird claim that 150 people were being killed at air shows every year, in the US alone, the fact is airshow deaths will not gain in rate at all.