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Old 09-17-2011, 09:03 AM
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Ok, Thank you!

I can participate in beta too, if you need more people for it.
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Old 09-24-2011, 12:31 PM
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the Team work for a new menu layout, so we have more place for future add-ons.
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the english translate for the Add-on 1, is still in work.
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Old 09-24-2011, 01:21 PM
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When you buy this product please keep in mind that the handbook that comes along with it contains some pages on the history of world war II that I personally find extremely impalatable. As it is written in the text it equates revisionistic view imho.

The text says that before the war, Poland was considered a rogue state by Britain and in the text thus suggesting that attacking Poland was ok. I think this is outrageous.

It further says that annecting parts of Checkoslovakia was an injustice but then relativates it by saying that Britain had done similar things.

The textbook says that Hitler just wanted to re-establish the German borders to the situation pre-1914 neglecting all the "Lebensraum" politics propagated by Hitler.

This textbook goes on in this tone. It is imho basically suggested that WW2 was not Germany's fault or at least there had been some justifications for it. As if one injustice justifies another one ...

I think you should consider this before you go to buy this. Unfortunately I did, not being aware of this kind of message that comes along with the addon.

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Old 09-24-2011, 01:31 PM
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That was the final nail to convince me im not buying it.
Glad i read that anyhow as it slapped me back to reality, If i buy this, im paying for things that get added on top of broken code, goes against my logic.
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Old 09-24-2011, 01:31 PM
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You can look at it as role-play nazi propaganda, which I'm sure it is what actally it really is.

Things is.. there re some voices stating some alternative history unorthodox claims regrading how and why WW2 started.. and what do you know, they might even be right with one or two things..
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Old 09-24-2011, 01:38 PM
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At the moment some might claim you to be defending nazism and the german state in the 30's & 40's.
I'm sure your not but in this politically correct "george orwell" nightmare world we live in we have to word oursleves very carefully.
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Old 09-24-2011, 01:59 PM
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oh Boy`s
many english and US IL2 Pilots fly the german Plans with historic markings, when a german player make this so he is a Nazi!!!

What i will say, this handbook will show you how the german think when they beginn the war with england, why they fight with them.

And note this is a Game Add-on and yes a WWII game, you be a Nazi when you play the german side?
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Old 09-24-2011, 02:15 PM
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Please go study some semantics, NSU.

The text is titled as "Historic background" and NOT: "How Germans believed at that time how WW2 started". And even if it had been labelled in this manner it is the minimum that a historic and factual text was put aside it.

As it is written it is a (fortunately still) marginal and queer and imho outrageous way of seeing things presented in a manner as if it was some historic account like any else. Imho it equates definitely to propaganda. Anyhow this kind of opinions whatever one might think about it has no place in a handbook of a game or an addon.

I now remember that once Desastersoft made itself speak of it in a similar way. I should have remembered that before buying it.

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