Post links to 'cheating using the soundmod' tracks here:

[robtek]

what really gets twisted here is the impression that there are "anti - modders".
Here, as far as i can see, are no "anti - modders" !!!!!
What some people see as "anti - modder" are people who are just ANTI - CHEATER !!!
As i see it everybody can change his game any way he (or she) likes just as long as he
(or she) doesn´t uses this "improvements" online to have an advantage!!!!!
Some of those mods or hacks or however really improve the game and as long as everybody
in a given Game uses it there is no problem.
The problem is and was that now you have to trust people in online games because the hacks made it so easy to cheat.
And one thing is shure: where there is competition there are cheater, and that is not only online.

[Krt_Bong]

You guys are just the biggest bunch of uniformed Dorks, yeah that's right Dorks. You think you know everything but you just have a few facts and not very well documented and you go off threatening everyone whom YOU are sure cheats. Here's a small tidbit for you to chew on.
I Have posted on that Forum and under the name Chebawookie so you can check them yourself.
I was under the impression at first that the Mods were cool, even useful as career or single player mods. I didn't think people were really cheating 'cos there's no way anyone could get past the CR=2 and how would you be able to use a Me-410 on a server where none was available? But I changed my mind, in fact I was using Jonesoft generic Mod enabler to switch between versions so I could retain my games integrity and therefore not be using the mod on servers not allowing it, But then something happened and my eyes were opened. Servers are insisting that Hyperlobby be used above direct IP Joining, All Seeing Eye or any other method, Personnally I've always refused to use it, Heard bad things about it, just plain didn't like it.
Now I have documented proof. I tried it myself and HL allows cheating, Mod enabling, Hacks, whatever label you prefer. HL will get past all the checks and NO-ONE can detect it. I was sick of reading the endless tripe from all the people at both forums and even when I tried to ask the Triple A guys to be mindful of it they descibed themselves as intelligent folks who would'nt consider cheating but I'm the bad guy for saying something. FU! I've been playing since R6 on win98 I've seen my share of Hacks and cheats. and my clan the Knights of the Round Table wont cheat Hack or do anything that gives an advantage over people who play fair. I'm absolutely sick to death of the childish BS that abounds by the faceless Hide Behind the Monitor Types who talk trash about modding and Hacking, If your so GD Smart than do something about it, If you know how to get to the developer of HL get them to work something out, and stop bitcchin about it here!

[96th_Nightshifter]

Originally Posted by Krt_Bong

Now I have documented proof. I tried it myself and HL allows cheating, Mod enabling, Hacks, whatever label you prefer. HL will get past all the checks and NO-ONE can detect it.

With all due respect, Hyperlobby isn't supposed to stop cheats, hack, mods or whatever you want to call it? Hyperlobby is simply a program to allow people to join the same servers.

It is the host of the server who has the limited ability to either stop or allow mods, it has nothing to do with Hyperlobby.

Just curious as to what your "documented proof" is? You joined Hyperlobby with a mod enabled and took a screenshot or what?

"uninformed Dorks" Maybe you want to re-think that last post.

[Krt_Bong]

Originally Posted by 96th_Nightshifter

With all due respect, Hyperlobby isn't supposed to stop cheats, hack, mods or whatever you want to call it? Hyperlobby is simply a program to allow people to join the same servers.

It is the host of the server who has the limited ability to either stop or allow mods, it has nothing to do with Hyperlobby.

Just curious as to what your "documented proof" is? You joined Hyperlobby with a mod enabled and took a screenshot or what?

"uninformed Dorks" Maybe you want to re-think that last post.

Ok maybe I didn't make this clear enough for you to understand me, the Server side settings are useless when HL is used, no matter what checks you use HL will circumvent them , so it may be true HL is not responsible however it is still enabling it to continue. Uniformed Dorks refers to the core group of people who still think that hackers are using some script to allow them to get into games where the mod is not allowed and cheat and going apeshit about how modding cheating hackers are ruining it for everyone. Yes I am venting about the stupid comments made here and at the Zoo as well as in the mod community 'cos everyone thinks that their opinion is the last and most important one , certainly my opinion could be wrong but it is only my opinion and by stating it, I now have to listen to your side: valid , or not and accept your side which you have a right to state but don't attack the messenger just hear what he has to say then decide, like maybe: "really I did not know this, thank you" or "this is old news and doesn't matter "

[jasonbirder]

what really gets twisted here is the impression that there are "anti - modders".
Here, as far as i can see, are no "anti - modders" !!!!!
What some people see as "anti - modder" are people who are just ANTI - CHEATER !!!

If that were true we wouldn't be having this discussion...Online players could have the floor to themselves and discuss whether Stronger Server administration or a third party developed server side file checking system would be the best way to protect future online play...

Unfortunately there is a gaggle of Online players who consistantly insult and offend anyone who believes in third party modification.
If they would just concede that use of third party modifications in either an Offline or controlled Online setting was acceptable and that the work of the developers of community generated Mods is an positive addition to the game we could all shake hands, smile and get abck to enjoying the game we all love.

As long as people like

Zapatister
El Laurens
Strewth
Rave
Baron

say things like

Then the debate will continue its long and tedious path...

promotes here openly that stealing from oleg and vandalizing his property

you lot hacked the sim. And I do in fact know right from wrong

you blow nothing but wind out your rear end...Do you support criminal activity

Great JOB IDIOTS...great job the sad thing is most all of you are arcade flying noobs

every whining son of a goat that expects that they know more. BLOW IT OUT YOUR ARSE MATE!

There is a core group over there that simply wants to bring down the game, for their own perverted, juvenile gratification

What the hackers even doing here just ban them

iv heard from a relible source that strictly offliners are former onliners who just couldnt cut the mustard.....is that true?

[Baron]

Originally Posted by jasonbirder

If that were true we wouldn't be having this discussion...Online players could have the floor to themselves and discuss whether Stronger Server administration or a third party developed server side file checking system would be the best way to protect future online play...

Unfortunately there is a gaggle of Online players who consistantly insult and offend anyone who believes in third party modification.
If they would just concede that use of third party modifications in either an Offline or controlled Online setting was acceptable and that the work of the developers of community generated Mods is an positive addition to the game we could all shake hands, smile and get abck to enjoying the game we all love.

As long as people like

Zapatister
El Laurens
Strewth
Rave
Baron

say things like

Then the debate will continue its long and tedious path...

LoL, keep spinning it, it might even come true some day. I could quote pages of insulting remarks from the "other" side all day long if u like.

And if u find a question insulting, dont awnser it AND dont pretend like its an insult..its a question, and a sarcastic one at that....learn to tell the differance and u`ll save us all time and energy.

And despite what u think, its post like this one from u, a post that spinns things to suite your own needs that keeps the ball rolling, nothing else.


Oh, and one more time just for u: The day some of "us" will agree and say "good job cracking the code to the ONLY online WWII combat flight sim out there" will be the day hell freezes over.

I could stop playing this game tomorrow and move on and i STILL wouldnt agree.


But u keep on pretending like u are the offended one...u give me a good laugh every time.


And finally, if u dont like beeing "insulted" dont talk about things here that will get u just that...if a question is an insult that is, a sarcastic question mind u. Im not saying what u can and can not talk about anywhere..but what do u expect? U got your awnser about what pople here at 1C think about this, if u want everyone to agree with u move on to the AAA site..its really that simple. Get over the fact that not everyone will agree with u and your friends no matter what u say, get over it and move on. Maby to the AAA site?

[jasonbirder]

LoL, keep spinning it, it might even come true some day

heres the Spin? Is it or is it not true that rather than agree that the problem with any and/or all Online cheating lies solely within the onnline community itself...the minority of online players have flipped the issue on its head...blaming Offline users of community generated Mods...making IL2 unique amongs all Simulators...a game where the production of new and improved free content by the community is critisised by a proportion of users?

And despite what u think, its post like this one from u, a post that spinns things to suite your own needs that keeps the ball rolling, nothing else.

How is this keeping the ball rolling...I, one of the most vocal on this thread and others agreed quite happily that the debare would become null and void if online players would agree to one simple and to me plainly obvious fact...The problem with Online CHeating is the sole responsibility of Online players...I for one don't see that as debatable!