Why does my spit spin around before engine start..?

[SEE]

Maybe sometime we can have Working Windsocks - if there is wind I want to know its direction and how damned windy it is .......

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by SEE

Maybe sometime we can have Working Windsocks - if there is wind I want to know its direction and how damned windy it is .......

Thought there was windsocks in CoD? Or am I thinking of RoF?

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Thought there was windsocks in CoD? Or am I thinking of RoF?

Oleg promised windsocks, but they got blown away in the dynamic weather, the spit spinning thing is a bug, its that simple. Wherever I play (online servers) the spit spins as soon as I spawn, nothing to do with prop wash.

[pupo162]

i bleieve it is a bug.

i Have it every time i set up a Online flight, and my plane jsut slides or spins, like it was on a icefield.

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Oleg promised windsocks, but they got blown away in the dynamic weather, the spit spinning thing is a bug, its that simple. Wherever I play (online servers) the spit spins as soon as I spawn, nothing to do with prop wash.

Yes, Oleg promised and delivered...



This guy is a joke... You don't even read all posts an jump here ASAP to talk crap! Congratulations! Number one critic of CloD!

Read all other posts and you will see why Spits spins as soon as you spawn...

To the "new" wind guy, the FM expert: nice! Now you know how winds works in CloD. Maybe some tweak is needed. I believe that smoke animation can be more affected by wind, and maybe less effect over Spitfires grounded. We need more work on this point.

But don't change the subject... You AGAIN don't go in FMB to test things and jump here to talk a lot. You never learn. You don't even test in FMB if the plane stops spinning facing wind and now will bother the world as a expert in winds behaviour.

Bye!

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

Yes, Oleg promised and delivered...



This guy is a joke... You don't even read all posts an jump here ASAP to talk crap! Congratulations! Number one critic of CloD!

Read all other posts and you will see why Spits spins as soon as you spawn...

To the "new" wind guy, the FM expert: nice! Now you know how winds works in CloD. Maybe some tweak is needed. I believe that smoke animation can be more affected by wind, and maybe less effect over Spitfires grounded. We need more work on this point.

But don't change the subject... You AGAIN don't go in FMB to test things and jump here to talk a lot. You never learn. You don't even test in FMB if the plane stops spinning facing wind and now will bother the world as a expert in winds behaviour.

Bye!

Yes we have windsocks, we know that, but do they work, Ive not seen a windsock blowing whilst my spit is spinning around. Now take a chill pill big boy.

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Yes we have windsocks, we know that, but do they work, Ive not seen a windsock blowing whilst my spit is spinning around. Now take a chill pill big boy.

Unbelievable...

[PeterPanPan]

The bottom line is that this spinning behaviour just isn't right. I have never seen a real or virtual light aircraft start spinning with it's engine off in the way it sometimes happens in CoD. Even if (and I'm not saying it is) it is the wind or the incline or whatever, it just isn't right that you would climb into an aircraft that is spinning. Total immersion killer. If this was happening in reality (for whatever reason) you would chock it, tie it down or have your crew hold the wings before you got in. The simple fact that a Spit, with engine off, should start spinning as if it is on a perfectly smooth motorized vehicle turntable is enough for me to say it is a bug. It is an inaccurate model of a real world situation.

PPP

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by TUCKIE_JG52

That's a different question.

Well it is not a question, it is an observation..

The observation being that the Australian Bureau of Meteorology does NOT send out warnigs to civil airports for wind speeds less than 18mps (39mph)

Originally Posted by TUCKIE_JG52

One question is if the plane should face the wind. The answer is yes.

The question?

I don't recall anyone asking that question?

But at least we agree on the answer, in that I pointed out in my 1st post in this thread that the plane should stop turning once it is 'in line' with the wind. Assuming it is the wind that is causing it to spin.

Originally Posted by TUCKIE_JG52

The other question is... how many speed of wind is needed to face the wind in a grass field?

In essance we really don't need to know the exact number.. What we do know is the Australian Bureau of Meteorology does NOT send out warnigs to civil airports for wind speeds less than 18mps (39mph). Which means there is no fear of a plane moving due to winds less than 18mps (39mph).

Originally Posted by TUCKIE_JG52

Well, obviously the speed of wind needed will be high, since plane weights and it's wheels have friction, plane will not rotate except in case of a very strong wind.

Agreed

Which means there is a 'bug' in IL-2 CoD because we are seeing planes move, turn, spin at speeds far less than 18mps (39mph).

Originally Posted by TUCKIE_JG52

This weekend I'll fly a real taildragger again but from a grass field. If there's some wind I'll do the test to see what happens

That would be interesting, but, does this tail dragger have the same surface area and weight of a WWII configured Spitfire? If not I don't see how the test results will prove anything one way or another.

Originally Posted by TUCKIE_JG52

Anyway, most of the things we are discussing in this post will be adressed, since Luthier told that the taxiing behaviour will be corrected (I hope, introducing propwash and some more friction to the ground when static).

One thing I have learned over the years about software companys is that 'talk is cheap'.. Ill belive it when I.. if I see it!

In Summary
IMHO it is a bug that a WWII configured Spitfire will sit and spin in winds of 10mps (22mph) based on the FACT that the Australian Bureau of Meteorology does NOT send out warnigs to civil airports for wind speeds less than 18mps (39mph). Which means there is no fear of a plane moving due to winds less than 18mps (39mph).

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

To the "new" wind guy, the FM expert: nice! Now you know how winds works in CloD.

LoBiSoMeM.. You really need to slow down and read peoples posts before you respond.. Because I knew how wind works before I even posted in this thread.. Which I proved in my very first post in this thread.. Which is why I consider the Spit spinning a bug.. In that wind speeds of 10mps (22mph) or less should NOT cause a 4,000lb+ plane to spin in a grass field.

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

Maybe some tweak is needed.

At last!

I am glad I was able to change your mind on how wind works! Becuase in your posts prior to my examples you were saying it is NOT a bug.. And now your admiting it needs to be fixxed.

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

But don't change the subject...

LoBiSoMeM.. You really need to slow down and read peoples posts before you respond.. Because I have been on subject the whole time! And my notes from Australian Bureau of Meteorology are on topic too. The topic being we know the Australian Bureau of Meteorology does NOT send out warnigs to civil airports for wind speeds less than 18mps (39mph). Which means there is no fear of a plane moving due to winds less than 18mps (39mph). Yet we see a 4,000lbs+ Spitfire in game spinning in a grass field, which NOW even you have come around to admit that it is a bug that needs fixxing (tweaking). I am just glad I could assist you in realsing that!

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

You AGAIN don't go in FMB to test things and jump here to talk a lot. You never learn. You don't even test in FMB if the plane stops spinning facing wind and now will bother the world as a expert in winds behaviour.

Actully I fear it is you that will never learn and talks too much and reads too little. In that in my very 1st post in this thread I pointed out the plane should stop spinning once it is facing into the wind.

In Summary
IMHO it is a bug that a WWII configured Spitfire will sit and spin in winds of 10mps (22mph) based on the FACT that the Australian Bureau of Meteorology does NOT send out warnigs to civil airports for wind speeds less than 18mps (39mph). Which means there is no fear of a plane moving due to winds less than 18mps (39mph).