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01-02-2008, 02:00 AM
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And nice EDIT for this place with the "(NOT ALL)", and "Are you trying for improving on the Sim? Or to feed your ego and make $ ... by letting the cat out of the bag. you have opened Pandora's box......." thing... Quote:
If people just deliberatly try to provoke, or stir, dont be surprised that you get banned from anywhere. Keep your name calling to yourself, and elsewhere. In addition to this, why continue stirring this crock-pot full of sh!t anyway? Its just getting boring, and really isnt achieving anything.... Last edited by RAF_Magpie; 01-02-2008 at 02:03 AM. |
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01-02-2008, 02:41 AM
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I call em like I see them. I just don't want people to forget about what is happening so I make lots of noise. if we settle for enough is enough move on then it gets to were we are now... A trashed online sim.. Nobody is playing the same sim now its not skill against skill , its what mod gives a better advantage. The best part about the sim is dead ......Its file integrity. I don't want to see it happen to SOW... why is CFS dead?......MODS.... Quote:
Congradulations on a great service to the Sim.. ~S~ RaVe Last edited by RaVe; 01-02-2008 at 02:53 AM. |
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01-02-2008, 03:35 AM
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Rave I understand where you are coming from... and my stance is less about keeping the peace as trying to find a solution... Call me a naive optomist but I think this can be fixed.. especially of the ones doing the work have help from 1C. I understand that 1C may not have the time to do it.. but surely some of those other talented folks who have the skills and the where withall to do the right thing can come up[ with a solution to this mess along the lines mentioned in a previous post. As bad as it is we should try to move from the way things are and concentrate on how we would like it to be and try to move it there. It isnt impossible...
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01-02-2008, 03:55 AM
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YOU DONT HAVE TO BE INSULTING, OR ABUSIVE to get a point accross dude. Its just rather unbecoming. |
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01-02-2008, 06:29 AM
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Those who belong to the "Oleg will fix this school" have, perhaps, missed the point. There is not likely to be a fix from above, but one worked out by the users. If MAW can be designed to lock out unofficial mods, so can IL-2. Oleg is fully committed to BOBSOW which promises to square the circle for both online and offline users. Why would he waste precious resources on IL-2? I think he has turned it over to the users to work out how to keep their online competition version alive. It's pathetic to see people perpetually bleating for a dispensation from Oleg instead of thinking for themselves.
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01-02-2008, 06:46 AM
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Xleit, if you were around the ubi.com since 2003, you would have seen the same computer gamer behavior attacking the Offline and Online players who asked Oleg for official methods for deeper customizing options and modding to one extent or another.
But then, we also had the Open Source Trolls, you know, those joining the forum demanding Oleg "open the source(tm)." They sound the same. Maybe they are the same gamers? nah, say it ain't so! |
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01-02-2008, 08:50 AM
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Mods haven't killed it...they've brought it back to life! Why oh why do we have to have the same argument over and over and over again... I challenge the Anti-Mod camp to name any significant flight sim that has been degraded or reduced in quality by the addition of third party or community developed Mods? And in balance i'll offer the following examples of Sims that have been improved by the addition of theses supposedly awful community Mods.... Falcon 4.0 Lock On Modern Air Combat Enemy Engaged Comanche Havok Janes F/A18 Combat Flight Simulator 3 European Air War Silent Hunter III Dangerous Waters And thats just the games I am familiar with, in that I own them and have played them in both the Vanilla and Modded versions and can say without fear of contradiction that the Modded versions are more immersive, more engaging, more complex and more realistic than the Un-Modded versions... If anyone can come up with a similar list (ideally from personal experience, not Hear-Say) of Simulators that have suffered from community based modding, then maybe there is an argument against it... If not, then can people stop repeating the same old arguments again and again...because they simply don't stack up... |
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01-02-2008, 12:23 PM
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And with the talented pool of folks that is in this community which never ceases to amaze me... surely... SURELY they can come up with something that can do the job.. I think that as long as it falls within the parameters that I described above it will work. That way those who want to use full mods and will anyway can.. and those who want to fly in a totally mod free environment can and those who want a mixed bag can have that as well.. I am certain that even then there will be people who will try to cross the line.. just because that is the way that people are... but at least with a viable solution like that.. it will make it less likely and more obvious and everyone will be able to do as they want without forcing their desires on anyone. Quote:
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01-02-2008, 12:34 PM
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CHAPEAU if the AAA "hacker" crew would design a "mod-prevent" tool
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