Thread about the 109

[trumps]

Originally Posted by drewpee

Being able to fight low and slow is alright for one on one but if your opponent had a wing man your toast. Now days I find keeping alive is a more realistic way of flying. To have no fear of dieing is the biggest immersion killer. My kill death ratio in my case is getting better all the time only because of the fear of virtual death. It's made me a better pilot.

i agree mate, for the first time in a sim i am flying using tactics and the principals of the great german aces of the time and they work! it in no way takes any of the fun out of the fight, i actually enjoy it a lot more plus my K/D
ratio has totally gone through the roof! in previous sims i have pretty much always allowed myself to get suckered into furballing while in the wrong plane,
now i make a concious decision of how and when to attack, i don't know if it is
just me or if it is due to the game it's self that has made it so much more enjoyable but i'm lovin it

Craig

[SNAFU]

As I said, if you are looking for your stats (whatever they are worth for?) always stay high and fast, but the question was in the beginning, how to learn the plane, if I remember that correctly (but I might be wrong though).

That`s what I was trying to explain. The fastest way to learn the 109 is to fly it in the most extreme situations, and if you always make one high speed pass and repeat or run you do not learn the 109, you just learn deflection shooting.

So far CoD is all a state of testing. The most players are just flying around waiting for the opposing bombers to get in their way and have a little shooting practice on AI bomber, which do not have any other meaning but being shot down by players, at least you rarely see any objective in online missions for players. It is also hard to implement any mission goals in online missions, f.e. ships are not counted as ground units and there is no direct way to set a trigger for them being destroyed as a group. Futhermore the FM is restricted to medium-alt flying having a ceiling at 7800m (at least I couldn´t get the 109 higher than that). The ones flying with the highest graphic settings have huge disatvanteges, compared to the majority flying without trees, lower resolution, switched off shadows, etc. So it is hard to feel the immersion of the Battle of Britain online on the PvP Servers imo.

Me for example only fly on the PvP Servers for testing and the fast fun in between, but for the immersion I fly missions I made myself and which (I think) do reflect the essence of the Battle of Britain with the best compromise between playability and the history I know.

But I am geting OT...

[drewpee]

Historically the 109 is a energy fighter, if you fly another way and have success,well good for you. I must say though once you learn to retain energy it's the best way to fly it for most pilots. There is no need to as you say run away once the 109 has been mastered, although there in nothing wrong in knowing to cut and run. A fight often deteriorates into a low and slow fight and then yes knowing your aircraft stalling characteristics will help to keep you alive. But usually a low and slow fight tends to end in someone stalling and dieing.

[SNAFU]

Exactly and if you only know your plane at corner speed or above, the chances are high that you are the one stalling.

[trumps]

actually we are all off topic, the original question was in reference to using the 109 sight, and the FOV
we do all get a bit carried away at times LOL! the only important thing is that everyone gets enjoyment out of the game no matter how or what they fly. if they want to mix it up down low cool, if they want to zoom and boom fantastic, if they want to try and prove that the He111 should have been used as a fighter brilliant! as long as we are all having fun. back to the original question, i don't use the zoomed FOV at all, but center the reticule of the sight with TIr, it works very well and unless i jump into another aircraft type dont have to worry about it again!

Craig

[Ze-Jamz]

Dont and have never seen the sight as a problem.. but then Im using Tir5 and can center it as said above

[finchOU]

New to CloD...but used to play Forgotten Battles a bunch. I'm trying full up all everything realism and I'm starting in the 109...as its my Fav. My question is with Engine management. The Manual does a shitty job of being consistant on how to max perform the A/C in CloD...and the info on the 109 is no exception. My question are.....what are the settings for Mag Pressure and Prop for Best Rate of Climb (at what airspeed)...what about max range or endurance? And Finally what works best in Combat for Prop setting...right now I use 11:00 on the prop (as it seems to not overspeed my RPMs) and yeilds decent engine performance. But whats best? (i'm in earlier models of the 109).

What's Boom and Zoom? I assume it's hit and run tactics exploiting the Vertical? Obviously only works with a neutral (better climb ratio then spit or hurri) or energy advantage. Is this right?

Any Yo Yo is actually "In Plane". Only if you use your excess speed (or lack of) to cut across the circle pure nose high (or bullseye nose low if slow) then you redefine "out of plane". If you're out of plane ...you are not in a yo yo...but redefining the fight in the vertical (if the adversary remains turning on the horizon) to gain an angular advantange. Yo Yo is still Two circle flow.