IL2 and Sound Modding

[BSS_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Urufu_Shinjiro

BS! That is the way of online play, f'ing get used to it, noone is imposing shit on you! It has ALWAYS been the case that to keep cheaters away you play with people you know, that will never change! Just because you have had the illusion that online play has been fair does not mean that it has been. Il2 has been leading a sheltered life so far, most of it denial anyway. Every other online game on the damn planet is that way, play with those you know or risk cheaters, why the f$%# start whining about it now?

I'm sorry if this offends some people but I am sick and damn tired of being accused of shit because I like some of the mods! I did not hack anything! I did not cheat anybody! I did not force my will on anyone! I didn't do shit to anybody so STFU and leave us all the hell alone, if you don't like the mods, then don't f'ing use them and go play your damn game. If you can't have fun with it anymore cause you can't deal with the real world then sucks to be you!

Just because you didn't cook the crack before you smoked it doesn't mean you're still not a crackhead. Chill, you're getting mighty defensive........

[Billfish]

as before I could join HL and feel very confident of the 1,000 there, that it would be a rare occurance to run into a cheater and once known, easy enough to blow off............Now however, in that many mods, not just a few yet many grant advantage over the stock game......I can feel very confident that NO mission I fly in is hack/cheat free.

It is your responsibility, as all others here, as it was up to us as members of a community to protect what is the foundation of our community the sim.......To support the contrary, shirking ones responsibility and stating clearly what path you've chosen....as I said above;

"Once having chosen a path most follow it to its end......Call me a Cynic, yet the work of the modders of "all groups" (those posting here just a small fraction YET could of taken a leadership role, refused), and sadly the cheaters using their work has just begun."

p.s.....the modders broke it, up to them to fix it or are the non-modders to have to take up the yoke of responsibility again as well as the modders go about their merry uncaring way?..........Sadly how it is hon, not a slam to you directly, yet one to all who support a wrong.


Wait for it............

K2

[JG52Uther]

Originally Posted by Billfish

a (those posting here just a small fraction YET could of taken a leadership role, refused),
K2

Sorry Billfish I really don't understand what you mean by this.What 'leadership' role could we have taken?
AAA is not my site,and I have no sway there,same as urufu.

[VT-51_Razor]

Has anyone considered the possibility that, as a result of the ability to fly such long awaited planes like the big bombers, or in my case the TBM, that 1:C may see a resurgence of sales of 1946? How many times over the past several years have we seen people post in the various forums, asking if this, or that plane were available to fly in this sim? I wonder if they might have passed on 1946 (or any of the previous versions) simply because their favorite plane was AI only? I wonder how many of those will be inclined to buy it now? There's no question that the game has been immensely improved by the sound mod. It's like a whole new game. The concerns of the un-modded about cheating seems to be misplaced as long as the public servers out there are able to exclude someone with a modded version. Yet, anyone can fly on a mod friendly server, and can do so at their own discretion. I don't see any conflict. Why all the animosity in here?

[Billfish]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

Sorry Billfish I really don't understand what you mean by this.What 'leadership' role could we have taken?
AAA is not my site,and I have no sway there,same as urufu.

Well none of what I've said directed at individuals....however,

...meaning "that group" could have if having made an effort made themselves not only the focal point of all the modding communities, dictated what was acceptable and what wasn't, helped developed ways to prevent cheating, and even converted the community to a whole by simply being responsible.

Unfortunately, they have instead simply focussed on their own wants openly challenging any truth as to the matter if contrary to those wants........So a situation that simply grows worse yet ONLY in their hands to correct. It IS the responsibility for all to take a side, the "crack analogy" very true as......

If you fight it you encourage it to be driven from your community as unacceptable....
If you support it, use it, fight for it even if just for yourself then you are trying to make it acceptable in your community (as if no one uses it, no one would make it....)
If you do nothing, and do not take a stand, then as with all things it will be taken as you don't care, and therefor find it acceptable.

We all no matter how insignificant we may think we are, affect the communities we're part of for good or bad........We're all responsible for it like it or not.

Wait for it........

K2

[fly_zo]

hmmm... to mod or not to mod that is the question ! now ... i'm getting my 4.09 beta tomorrow ( cos 56k) from friend and after reading all those post with accusations and distrust why the hell i still have dilemma ? And i'm openly saying here : i know how to mod pretty much every part (aspect) of the game.

So Billfish if you are right then i'm troubling myself with no reason...

[RAF_Magpie]

What is done - is done. It cannot be undone.

So why keep moaning about it?

[BrassEm]

Still talking to the hand?

[BSS_Sniper]

Originally Posted by RAF_Magpie

What is done - is done. It cannot be undone.

So why keep moaning about it?

From the guy that loves every mod at that site, FM, DM, WM modding, frankenplanes and disputes nothing, whatever it is, anything and everything goes. If thats all you have to contribute, why type anything?

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

billfish, I've said my peace, I'm not responsible for your delusions, I wish everyone would just STFU and leave everyone else the hell alone.