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[BadAim]

It is an unfortunate truth that most men would much prefer to be slaves so long as the food is good and the taskmaster isn't too harsh.

Chairman Mao said it best; "All political power comes from the barrel of a gun"

Those who would take your liberty must first get your guns, whether or not you hand them over voluntarily is irrelevant.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by BadAim

It is an unfortunate truth that most men would much prefer to be slaves so long as the food is good and the taskmaster isn't too harsh.

Chairman Mao said it best; "All political power comes from the barrel of a gun"

Those who would take your liberty must first get your guns, whether or not you hand them over voluntarily is irrelevant.

Exactly.. Sheep,nothing more nothing less.

Why thinking when there's a Government and public opinion that does it for you? I was hoping that these riots would at least bring back some common sense in public opinion,but all they did was a witch hunt for the people responsible for this,not the cause,which is an inadequate policing.

[Sternjaeger II]

You know,at first I was surprised that people with such mentality could be in this forum,but then again to them the Battle Of Britain is either a game or something that was fought with good intentions,not firearms.. It's a contradiction in terms that is beyond me.

[Vengeanze]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

You know,at first I was surprised that people with such mentality could be in this forum

So I need an 88 in my backyard to play Call Of Duty or a restaurated Spit with live rounds to play CloD?

Speaking of playing wargames (like CloD); am I right when I assume you play CloD? If so, then this strikes me as a bit funny, if I may:

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

It's the bottomline hypocrisy lingering here that drives me nuts: if you go to Beltring you will be in ACRES of militaria stalls, hundreds of people walking around in full uniforms and blank firing guns, tanks and cannons, heck they even re-enact battles! But talk about working firearms and they all look the other way.. it's INSANE, how can you be so much into that, wearing a Nazi uniform, firing blanks against other figurants and then calling people who use working firearms crazies?!

Btw, you're aware that your nick could be misintepreted, right?
Stern = Rear
jaeger = Hunter

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Vengeanze

So I need an 88 in my backyard to play Call Of Duty or a restaurated Spit with live rounds to play CloD?

erm no, it's not the point.. Are you 12 as well?

The point is that you can't play games that gravitate around violence and make of violence their main theme, then being a anti-firearms guy, it's a contradiction in terms. Why playing something that advocates the use of firearms if you're against them? It makes me think of a Jewish Nazi militaria collector I once met, I just couldn't understand what the heck that was all about

Speaking of playing wargames (like CloD); am I right when I assume you play CloD? If so, then this strikes me as a bit funny, if I may:

why would it be funny?

Btw, you're aware that your nick could be misintepreted, right?
Stern = Rear
jaeger = Hunter

..as I said, you must be 12, both because of your infantile sense of humour and because you can't even spell your nickname properly.. it's vengeance, not vengeanze, genius..

[baronWastelan]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

..as I said, you must be 12, both because of your infantile sense of humour and because you can't even spell your nickname properly.. it's vengeance, not vengeanze, genius..

The name Vengeanze has been around since the beginning, and as an elder deserves our respect, irregardless of his misguided ideals. I remember him from the pre-FB days.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by baronWastelan

The name Vengeanze has been around since the beginning, and as an elder deserves our respect, irregardless of his misguided ideals. I remember him from the pre-FB days.

well I've been around since the beginning of IL-2 and I don't see why someone else should mock my nickname, not cos I'm offended, I just don't understand what is the point in this conversation. It's very childish me thinks..

[CWMV]

Originally Posted by BadAim

It is an unfortunate truth that most men would much prefer to be slaves so long as the food is good and the taskmaster isn't too harsh...

This made me think of some very powerful words, written by brave men for the benefit of us all.

"all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

[Pudfark]

The value of a "firearm"?
The value of a "knife"?
The value of sheep?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...ey-attack.html

How much do you value yourself?
Others?

[Vengeanze]

Originally Posted by BadAim

Chairman Mao said it best; "All political power comes from the barrel of a gun"

He also said:
"In order to get rid of the gun it is necessary to take up the gun."

So you guys are trying to disarm the world?