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Old 08-10-2011, 03:27 PM
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Cheesehawk-Ok there seems to be a problem,at least when I try to "load" 109's guns for say 70 meters. I first disable default ( which so far as I can tell is 100meters,in both vert & horiz.) Now I delete 100 and put in 70 in one of the windows and go to the second window .When I click on that the other window reverts immediately back to 100.No matter what I do eventually both windows remain at 100.I cannot seem to get anything saved.Am I going about this in the wrong order? Should I do a title for the saved changes first? I know this is probably just me entering things incorrectly but there you are...a bit of friendly advice would be most welcome...

BTW This is an interesting bit from a friend of mine ( Joe Springer) who was an armourer in the Navy a while ago & knows quite a bit on things "guns":
As it happens, I happen to know a little about the (real) history of the effectiveness of the .303 for both aircraft.


Problem one: Aircrews constantly underestimated the distance from the enemy aircraft before firing. I do it too. In this instance, it doesn't matter what the guns converge at, though the gun convergence distance was always to blame for the poor accuracy. Ultimately, in May 1940 crews were told to start firing at enemy aircraft at a distance of 300 yards. After the first "ruddy goes", it was learned the actual distance of an engagement varied between 800 and 1,200 yards. (That's why the Germans trained not to fire until the enemy aircraft filled the windscreen/gun site.) Command then recommended the Spits and Hurricanes to BEGIN firing at 100 yards and never more than 300.


A number of squadrons harmonized their .303s to converge at 350 yards and 250 yards, the later option - it was said - used only for expert pilots/marksmen. In March 1940, enough data was available to suspect the OPTIMUM convergence for eight .303 Browning machine guns in a Spit or Hurricane platform was 250 yards. By June there was enough combat/physical evidence available from various crashed enemy platforms to conclude without doubt the closer distance improved accuracy and Rounds On Target, from 53 percent at 250 yards to 39 percent at 350 yards. At the close of the Battle of Britain (almost) all of the .303 gunned aircraft were set to converge at 250 yards.


Whether the game knows this . . . is only a guess. ~j~

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Old 08-10-2011, 05:41 PM
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I think the default convergence is about 330 meters.

As for setting it to 70, that might be physically impossible.

To have the wing mounted guns converge, the armorers are essentially turning them around inside the wing. In that sense, the amount of available "wiggle room" within the wings places a limit on your convergence choices: to set point blank convergence the guns might have to be angled so much towards the centerline of the aircraft that they can't fit in their rectangular bays anymore
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Old 08-18-2011, 07:53 PM
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Thanks again for the details on the gun settings, helps a lot to know some of the details about them for our settings in the sim.
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