4.11 Development Update

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Eggtooth

Is it possible to make Me-323, He-111H Zwilling flyable aircrafts?

I am really waiting for this aircrafts to come as official ones. I like them so much.

Please if you can- do them playable

I guess the question would be... what would you do with them?

The Me-323 is a transport aircraft. The Zwilling He-111 was designed to tow the Me-321. I'm a huge fan of all aviation but realistically if time and resources are limited (and they are) then efforts to recreate something useful in a combat simulator, at least in my mind, should take priority.

Not just specific to your request either. Lots of people seem to want the C-47 to fly for example.

It's why I argue for types that play a bigger role. The Me410 for example would be fantastic to add. It was a bomber, bomber destroyer, night fighter, fighter-bomber... and with minimal modifications between versions it means that limited resources go a long way to plugging a gap in the plane set.

Less versatile but no less important would be types like the Ki-44 fighter interceptor, Ki-45 heavy fighter and fighter-bomber, Typhoon Mark IB used extensively during the Normandy campaign, Beaufighter Mark X or other models, etc. Lots of bang for the buck so to speak. Not that we can't have more rare stuff... but I question how interesting and worthwhile it would be to fly a transport. It has that wow cool moment... and then what? Flying cargo missions sounds interesting for only a very short period of time and only for a minority of people.

I'm making any sense?

[Eggtooth]

Originally Posted by IceFire

I guess the question would be... what would you do with them?

The Me-323 is a transport aircraft. The Zwilling He-111 was designed to tow the Me-321. I'm a huge fan of all aviation but realistically if time and resources are limited (and they are) then efforts to recreate something useful in a combat simulator, at least in my mind, should take priority.

Not just specific to your request either. Lots of people seem to want the C-47 to fly for example.

It's why I argue for types that play a bigger role. The Me410 for example would be fantastic to add. It was a bomber, bomber destroyer, night fighter, fighter-bomber... and with minimal modifications between versions it means that limited resources go a long way to plugging a gap in the plane set.

Less versatile but no less important would be types like the Ki-44 fighter interceptor, Ki-45 heavy fighter and fighter-bomber, Typhoon Mark IB used extensively during the Normandy campaign, Beaufighter Mark X or other models, etc. Lots of bang for the buck so to speak. Not that we can't have more rare stuff... but I question how interesting and worthwhile it would be to fly a transport. It has that wow cool moment... and then what? Flying cargo missions sounds interesting for only a very short period of time and only for a minority of people.

I'm making any sense?

So tell me point of view of existance as flyable:
Go-229
Do-335
YP-80
TB-3 4M-34R

???

You know, just to have fun in free mode, by flying some nice planes. That's why I wanted to see them...

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Eggtooth

So tell me point of view of existance as flyable:
Go-229
Do-335
YP-80
TB-3 4M-34R

???

You know, just to have fun in free mode, by flying some nice planes. That's why I wanted to see them...

All of those are combat aircraft even if one of them didn't exist in finished form, one flew recon patrols, one flew combat patrols in Italy, and as for the TB-3... it was in use until sometime in 1942. In other words no non-combat aircraft. Fighter, destroyer, fighter and bomber.

Of the four there I'd have only really wanted to see the TB-3 and would gladly trade those others. They were made... so the work is already done. But if it's up to volunteer modelers and not people necessarily getting paid for their efforts... I'd rather see types that we can use.

It's absolutely fun to fly in free mode. I do that a fair bit actually... it's very soothing sometimes to just skim along the landscape and enjoy some of the scenery. You can do that in all of the combat aircraft too!

[Eggtooth]

Originally Posted by IceFire

All of those are combat aircraft even if one of them didn't exist in finished form, one flew recon patrols, one flew combat patrols in Italy, and as for the TB-3... it was in use until sometime in 1942. In other words no non-combat aircraft. Fighter, destroyer, fighter and bomber.

Of the four there I'd have only really wanted to see the TB-3 and would gladly trade those others. They were made... so the work is already done. But if it's up to volunteer modelers and not people necessarily getting paid for their efforts... I'd rather see types that we can use.

It's absolutely fun to fly in free mode. I do that a fair bit actually... it's very soothing sometimes to just skim along the landscape and enjoy some of the scenery. You can do that in all of the combat aircraft too!

I am just waiting for Pe-8 because i love bombers.
In future I always wanted to see Fw 200 C-3/U4, C-47, Cant Z.1007bis, Me-323, HE-111H Zwilling as flyable planes.

Just to have some fun flying them in Free mode. Even if there is no point of existence, just to give players more flyable planes, and the biggest ones, because some of them like Bombers and huuuge planes (like me )

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Eggtooth

I am just waiting for Pe-8 because i love bombers.
In future I always wanted to see Fw 200 C-3/U4, C-47, Cant Z.1007bis, Me-323, HE-111H Zwilling as flyable planes.

Just to have some fun flying them in Free mode. Even if there is no point of existence, just to give players more flyable planes, and the biggest ones, because some of them like Bombers and huuuge planes (like me )

The Pe-8 will definitely be a magnificent addition to the line up. Big four engined bombers can be quite a bit of fun

[Eggtooth]

Originally Posted by IceFire

The Pe-8 will definitely be a magnificent addition to the line up. Big four engined bombers can be quite a bit of fun

Imagine the other ones as flyable

[Bat*21]

Originally Posted by Eggtooth

Imagine the other ones as flyable

There's a B-24 project in the works, I'm looking forward to that

[aquila26]

Originally Posted by IceFire

I guess the question would be... what would you do with them?

The Me-323 is a transport aircraft. The Zwilling He-111 was designed to tow the Me-321. I'm a huge fan of all aviation but realistically if time and resources are limited (and they are) then efforts to recreate something useful in a combat simulator, at least in my mind, should take priority.

Not just specific to your request either. Lots of people seem to want the C-47 to fly for example.

It's why I argue for types that play a bigger role. The Me410 for example would be fantastic to add. It was a bomber, bomber destroyer, night fighter, fighter-bomber... and with minimal modifications between versions it means that limited resources go a long way to plugging a gap in the plane set.

Less versatile but no less important would be types like the Ki-44 fighter interceptor, Ki-45 heavy fighter and fighter-bomber, Typhoon Mark IB used extensively during the Normandy campaign, Beaufighter Mark X or other models, etc. Lots of bang for the buck so to speak. Not that we can't have more rare stuff... but I question how interesting and worthwhile it would be to fly a transport. It has that wow cool moment... and then what? Flying cargo missions sounds interesting for only a very short period of time and only for a minority of people.

I'm making any sense?

It is possibile to use C47 and Ju52 as a parachutes transport for example not only for transpot supplies or other the logidtic is very importantant in the whole strathegy, Ike said that the last one wewrw the most importante see the battle o Atlantic

[Fighterace]

Does Team Daidalos have a website or something where you can find out where they came from, what restrictions they have to work with and what they are working on atm?

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by Fighterace

Does Team Daidalos have a website or something where you can find out where they came from, what restrictions they have to work with and what they are working on atm?

No, but they should. The DT discussions forum is as close they've gotten so far to having an official web presence.

For restrictions on aircraft polygons, naming conventions, etc. The IL2 Modeling Bible is a decent start:

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=357.0

or

https://rs270tl2.rapidshare.com/#!do...498CC3CAE9|0|0

For restrictions on what can be modeled, close reading of past DT discussion forum threads will get you up to speed. Basically:

No Battle of Britain era equipment or maps (so, basically 1939-40 British and German planes are off-limits, with the exception of planes already in the game, or exported to other countries, like the Blenheim and the Hurricane Mk I. This means no realistic maps of Great Britain, and probably no Do-17, Bf-109E-1, Spitfire Mk I or Defiant).

No Mediterranean Theater planes or maps (so, no realistic maps of Italy, Greece, North Africa, Iraq or the Holy Land and no planes which just served in the MTO. The has been some slippage on this point, though, since so far Oleg hasn't objected to the inclusion of a number of Italian planes which mostly served in the MTO.)

No Korean War planes or maps (so, no realistic maps of the Korean peninsula. No MiG-15, F-86, F9F Panther, AD-1 Skyraider or P-82 Twin Mustang).

No equipment made by Northrop-Grumman or companies merged into NG (e.g., Ryan Aerospace, Newport News Shipbuilding). No improvements to NG equipment already in the game. This means there will never be an official flyable TBF/TBM Avenger, nor will planes like the P-61 Black Widow or the Ryan FR1 Fireball, or ships like the USS Arizona, ever get into the game.

No changes or updates to DGEN. This isn't a restriction, just a fact of life, since "Starshoy" the programmer who developed the DGEN code, has literally vanished and he's the only one who knows how to decompile it so it can be rewritten.