Post links to 'cheating using the soundmod' tracks here:

[SlipBall]

Yep, anything is possible now, nothing would surprise me anymore.....but I think that there are not many out there doing this type of thing....still enough to ruin the game though

[zapatista]

from another thread in this same forum, where some people are asking to have modifiable sound files and "lock the rest", one person who obviously *knows* enough about what has been altered confirms exactly what is being argued about in this thread

Originally Posted by HanzBlixz

I’ve spent too many hours contributing to programs to deter online cheating and will not make this into a “How To” for the dishonest individuals out there.

1C has been sent a list of methods on how to use a sound mod to cheat and affect other online gamers.

**If anyone listed them here I would hope a moderator would delete them immediately.**

For a copy of the list sent to 1C try the following.

Post the topic/question directly to Oleg or 1C titled…
“Oleg please publish a tutorial in your forum called -
“Modding for Morons - How to exploit sound mods that pass CRT=2 so that I may ruin the online gaming experience of others.”

(I sure some of you could come up with a better title.)

1C has the list I sent them. CrazyIvan has also been given an overview.
I will let them decide if they would like to share it.

of course he could have been dropped in by black UN helicopter overnight !

[Baron]

Dont know if anyone else have seen it, but yesterday i saw AAA with theire very own server at HL.

[SlipBall]

I don't ever see many, any, on there when I take a look,...

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Originally Posted by zapatista

from another thread in this same forum, where some people are asking to have modifiable sound files and "lock the rest", one person who obviously *knows* enough about what has been altered confirms exactly what is being argued about in this thread



of course he could have been dropped in by black UN helicopter overnight !

We all know what is "possible" with these mods, what we want cleared up is whether or not what is "possible" is being done as much as others claim. Anyone who denies that cheating is possible is as much to be ignored as the ones who say cheating is rampant. Mod users are not cheaters, cheaters are cheaters. there were cheaters before the mod, I'm sure there are those out there cheating right now that haven't used the mods. One is not a creator of the other. Those who knew how to cheat before the mod didn't neccessarily cheat either, just because knowing how to mod means it's possible to cheat doesn't mean one does.

[Bandit Bill]

Originally Posted by Urufu_Shinjiro

We all know what is "possible" with these mods, what we want cleared up is whether or not what is "possible" is being done as much as others claim. Anyone who denies that cheating is possible is as much to be ignored as the ones who say cheating is rampant. Mod users are not cheaters, cheaters are cheaters. there were cheaters before the mod, I'm sure there are those out there cheating right now that haven't used the mods. One is not a creator of the other. Those who knew how to cheat before the mod didn't neccessarily cheat either, just because knowing how to mod means it's possible to cheat doesn't mean one does.

Oh come on, Urufu_Shinjiru, you are using the wrong logic for this topic.. It should be:

But.. But... She's a (modder) Witch! BURN Her!

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Sorry, I will refrain from using logic and reason from now on, or in other word "I got better..."

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Ofcoarse, my appologies. I will be bringing you a shrubbery and a herring immidiatly.

[Bandit Bill]

Originally Posted by Robert

Man is that witch burning analogy lame.....and misplaced.

As a matter of fact I find it unscrupulous that an historical event about innocent people being persecuted and killed would be used to draw a comparison with hack users.....(who admittedly use hacks).

(Yeah, I'm aware you're using Monty Python as a joke.... )

Have a great holiday everyone. Hope everyones New Year finds all the good things in life. Peace.

Puleeeaase.. enough with the PC crap and accusations of misrepresenting the plight of innocent crispy critter-witches some 500 odd years ago and offending your delicate sensibilities in the process, in relation to the Evil Empire modders.

The analogy is about as applicable as it can be. Monty Python, and this thread, are at equal planes of absurdity and parody as far as a 'serious discussion' can get, in reference to the real world.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Urufu_Shinjiro

We all know what is "possible" with these mods, what we want cleared up is whether or not what is "possible" is being done as much as others claim.

sure, that sounds like a great idea, but it wasnt the purpose of this specific thread. in the initial soundmod thread a small number of people kept insisting cheating with the soundmod hack was completely impossible because checksum 2 prevented its use, so as a collective act of genius one of them started this thread.

since then multiple examples have been given of what type of cheats currently exist, and that many of them cant be detected by other people making tracks. several people in these same threads (and the AAA forum) then confirmed that checksum 2 doesnt work anymore.

Originally Posted by Urufu_Shinjiro

Anyone who denies that cheating is possible is as much to be ignored as the ones who say cheating is rampant.

it being rampant doesnt really matter, the fact that it is happening is a concern for most of the online il2 users. and what is beyond doubt is that the problem is much more of an issue then before the soundmod was first released. the genie cant be put back into the bottle either, unless a new anti hack lock is implemented in 4.09, which takes time and resources.