Expansion from Desatersoft

[Seeker]

Sad that people are so shy of being fooled twice.

I've had no dealings with this company, but in the past I've bought almost every expansion pack there was for the IL-2 series, and I always thought I got much more than my monies worth.

Think it through: It probably takes me four to eight hours in the FMB to come up with an interesting 45 minute mission, and that's with out skinning, historical research if applicable and simply having a fun idea.

Anything "non standard" such as some of the crazy racing maps would take me much, much longer, if I could do it at all.

What are you prepared to work for per hour?

And don't claim "but I give it all way for free", there was such a stink about mission makers being "ripped off" by people searching their own cache files for MP missions that 1C encrypted the cache!


Don't misunderstand me: I won't buy it, but that's because I won't spend a red cent on this POS until it's received some care and attention from some one who knows what they're doing, which by now almost certainly means mods, if Steam ever allows it.

But it's simply not fair to paint every small developer with the same brush. Some of them are very good and try very hard.

[adonys]

You guys are stubborn, and just go on and on..

Yes, I'm sure they are working very hard. I would also work very hard to make.. dunno.. a rocket.. but that wouldn't mean anyone would pay me trillions of euros for it.

And don't even dare to open the discussion about what hard work on how much money.. here in eastern Europe we're paid way less than you guys in the West, and most of the time for even a harder and longer work.

But that's not the point.

The point is, certain things values a certain amounts of money. And when someone asks way moore, without offering anything special, no one is willing to pay it, even if it is not about large sums of money. They will only pay for what they perceive as a right bargain.

The point is they will find 2-300, maybe 500, people to pay 30 euros for it, but there will be 2-3 maybe 5000 people not willing to pay 30 euros for it, but would pay like 10 euros. Now, do some math, and tell me in which case they would gain the most return money? 500x30 or 5000x10?

Is simple, and if they don't get it, then they really deserve the foreseeable outcome of this..

[ParaB]

Originally Posted by adonys

The point is, certain things values a certain amounts of money.

True, but that value is not a precise number, it's what a potential customer is willing to pay. Some people think it's too expensive and will not buy it, some think the price is OK.

Since I have bought products from them in the past and have been very happy with what I got I'll certainly take a closer look on this one, too.

[tintifaxl]

Originally Posted by adonys

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The point is they will find 2-300, maybe 500, people to pay 30 euros for it, but there will be 2-3 maybe 5000 people not willing to pay 30 euros for it, but would pay like 10 euros. Now, do some math, and tell me in which case they would gain the most return money? 500x30 or 5000x10?

Is simple, and if they don't get it, then they really deserve the foreseeable outcome of this..

Simple math, depends on production/distribution cost per unit. e.g. the map, the printed manual and the likes. I'm talking about a physical copy.

One thing I like about the bomber campaign, is that they provide recon photos and approaching directions.

Quote from Desastersoft.com: Bei Olafs Jagdbomberkampagne gibt es detaillierte Zielanweisungen, wie es für Bomber notwendig ist, mit Anflugkurzkarten, Zielfotos usw.

I'm looking forward to it, but then I'm more of an offline flight simmer who likes well crafted static campaigns with historic background in a WW2 flight sim.

[Winger]

Just preordered the addon. Desastersoft has a good name making camapigns and CloD is a great game and with this addon it will be an even better experience.

Cheers

Winger

[Freycinet]

Originally Posted by adonys

You guys are stubborn, and just go on and on..

Yes, I'm sure they are working very hard. I would also work very hard to make.. dunno.. a rocket.. but that wouldn't mean anyone would pay me trillions of euros for it.

And don't even dare to open the discussion about what hard work on how much money.. here in eastern Europe we're paid way less than you guys in the West, and most of the time for even a harder and longer work.

But that's not the point.

The point is, certain things values a certain amounts of money. And when someone asks way moore, without offering anything special, no one is willing to pay it, even if it is not about large sums of money. They will only pay for what they perceive as a right bargain.

The point is they will find 2-300, maybe 500, people to pay 30 euros for it, but there will be 2-3 maybe 5000 people not willing to pay 30 euros for it, but would pay like 10 euros. Now, do some math, and tell me in which case they would gain the most return money? 500x30 or 5000x10?

Is simple, and if they don't get it, then they really deserve the foreseeable outcome of this..

They've made several add-ons already, you think they don't know how to calculate the best price point better than some outsiders mouthing off on a web forum?

For the time you end up spending when you play the missions and campaigns included, the product is certainly good value for money. Maybe not in Albania but in Western Europa for sure, and since the product is in German I have the feeling it will probably sell mostly in that country.

And, no, before those who enjoy gratuitously smearing the good name of fellow forum members come in. I am not affiliated with Desastersoft in any way. Really sad that it is necessary to say that, but that is how it is when "certain people" use the most base tactics to smear others.

[icarus]

I'm going to wait for CoD to get finished before I invest anymore money. Sorry. It seems like cart before the horse to me, but..... to each his own.

[adonys]

Originally Posted by Freycinet

They've made several add-ons already, you think they don't know how to calculate the best price point better than some outsiders mouthing off on a web forum?

For the time you end up spending when you play the missions and campaigns included, the product is certainly good value for money. Maybe not in Albania but in Western Europa for sure, and since the product is in German I have the feeling it will probably sell mostly in that country.

And, no, before those who enjoy gratuitously smearing the good name of fellow forum members come in. I am not affiliated with Desastersoft in any way. Really sad that it is necessary to say that, but that is how it is when "certain people" use the most base tactics to smear others.

Maybe it is a good value for money.. for some..

But.. not from what I've seen in their demo missions.

And no matter what, it's ridiculous to pay 50 bucks for a car, and then to be asked 40 for a wheel... You are free to throw your money if you feel like to, but that doesn't make it fair none-the-less..

[NSU]

here a small Video from the Erpr.Gr210 combat flight, the voices you hear, is the command for the player to destroy the Blenheim group, this is a part for the mission.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Am8XBTu8k

[skouras]

thanks NSU for the video
excellent