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Old 08-04-2011, 10:46 AM
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30 € is what I spend on two evenings having a couple of beers in a pub with friends. Or a single evening with the GF and a movie.

This product seems to offer six campaigns and around 200 hrs of gameplay.

Seems like a bargain to me. I've paid more money for single addon planes in FSX and got more than my money's worth.

Of course I won't spend a cent until the most glaring issues of this unfinished mess that is CoD are fixed.
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Old 08-04-2011, 10:48 AM
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Ahh, the trolls have arrived.

Time for reasoning is over, time to leave then.
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Old 08-04-2011, 11:13 AM
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Ahh, the trolls have arrived.

Time for reasoning is over, time to leave then.
Yep you are quite right about that.. There are a few about

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Old 08-04-2011, 11:17 AM
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30 €..
No one said 30 euros is a big amount of money. Not in any case for me. It's just is way too much in exchange of what is offered. I would pay 100 if I would get 100€ worth in return. I've spent 320£ on the Thrustmaster Warthog, which is pretty much for a joystick, and in no case a small amount of money. Yet, I was happy with it, because what I've got in return deserved every penny I've spent on it.

It's all about business model: you want 100 customers to pay 30€, or 1000 to pay 10€. In the end, they're free to go with whichever fits them better.

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Old 08-04-2011, 11:53 AM
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I keep getting the sneaky impression that there are either people that work at that company or friends there off, trying to peddle, talk it up, justify the costing. Anyways i'll say no more on this topic..

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Old 08-04-2011, 01:24 PM
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Sad that people are so shy of being fooled twice.

I've had no dealings with this company, but in the past I've bought almost every expansion pack there was for the IL-2 series, and I always thought I got much more than my monies worth.

Think it through: It probably takes me four to eight hours in the FMB to come up with an interesting 45 minute mission, and that's with out skinning, historical research if applicable and simply having a fun idea.

Anything "non standard" such as some of the crazy racing maps would take me much, much longer, if I could do it at all.

What are you prepared to work for per hour?

And don't claim "but I give it all way for free", there was such a stink about mission makers being "ripped off" by people searching their own cache files for MP missions that 1C encrypted the cache!


Don't misunderstand me: I won't buy it, but that's because I won't spend a red cent on this POS until it's received some care and attention from some one who knows what they're doing, which by now almost certainly means mods, if Steam ever allows it.

But it's simply not fair to paint every small developer with the same brush. Some of them are very good and try very hard.
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Old 08-04-2011, 01:41 PM
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You guys are stubborn, and just go on and on..

Yes, I'm sure they are working very hard. I would also work very hard to make.. dunno.. a rocket.. but that wouldn't mean anyone would pay me trillions of euros for it.

And don't even dare to open the discussion about what hard work on how much money.. here in eastern Europe we're paid way less than you guys in the West, and most of the time for even a harder and longer work.

But that's not the point.

The point is, certain things values a certain amounts of money. And when someone asks way moore, without offering anything special, no one is willing to pay it, even if it is not about large sums of money. They will only pay for what they perceive as a right bargain.

The point is they will find 2-300, maybe 500, people to pay 30 euros for it, but there will be 2-3 maybe 5000 people not willing to pay 30 euros for it, but would pay like 10 euros. Now, do some math, and tell me in which case they would gain the most return money? 500x30 or 5000x10?

Is simple, and if they don't get it, then they really deserve the foreseeable outcome of this..
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Old 08-04-2011, 02:04 PM
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The point is, certain things values a certain amounts of money.
True, but that value is not a precise number, it's what a potential customer is willing to pay. Some people think it's too expensive and will not buy it, some think the price is OK.

Since I have bought products from them in the past and have been very happy with what I got I'll certainly take a closer look on this one, too.
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Old 08-04-2011, 02:10 PM
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The point is they will find 2-300, maybe 500, people to pay 30 euros for it, but there will be 2-3 maybe 5000 people not willing to pay 30 euros for it, but would pay like 10 euros. Now, do some math, and tell me in which case they would gain the most return money? 500x30 or 5000x10?

Is simple, and if they don't get it, then they really deserve the foreseeable outcome of this..
Simple math, depends on production/distribution cost per unit. e.g. the map, the printed manual and the likes. I'm talking about a physical copy.

One thing I like about the bomber campaign, is that they provide recon photos and approaching directions.

Quote from Desastersoft.com: Bei Olafs Jagdbomberkampagne gibt es detaillierte Zielanweisungen, wie es für Bomber notwendig ist, mit Anflugkurzkarten, Zielfotos usw.

I'm looking forward to it, but then I'm more of an offline flight simmer who likes well crafted static campaigns with historic background in a WW2 flight sim.
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Old 08-04-2011, 02:34 PM
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Just preordered the addon. Desastersoft has a good name making camapigns and CloD is a great game and with this addon it will be an even better experience.

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