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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 08-02-2011, 09:59 PM
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that tumble is really unlikely to happen on a Mustang, and even if it did, it's probably cos the pilot screwed up big time: it's not a manoeuvre, it's a mistake.
Or maybe it's a really desperate pilot hanging it out on the edge because he's got a really big pair?

I do find it humorous that your expert agrees that it could possibly happen, but I'm the one in the alternative reality...
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:10 PM
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Or maybe it's a really desperate pilot hanging it out on the edge because he's got a really big pair?

I do find it humorous that your expert agrees that it could possibly happen, but I'm the one in the alternative reality...
No, the "big balls factor" is another silly badge that pilots like to decorate themselves with, but when they tell you these stories they know (and other pilots know) that they screwed up in the beginning, it's called human error, it happens and sometimes it claims the lives of pilots. In my airfield life I have met pilots of any kind: anybody can be a pilot, all you have to do is paying for flying lessons, being a good pilot is not something all can achieve.

I can hear a ww2 vet talking about this unlikely manoeuvre and be respectfuk to the man, smiling and listening for another hour, but when a modern warbird operator talks about the possibility of this kinda manoeuvre, my answer normally is "why don't you go up there and show us?", to which very few follow through. And believe me, sometimes it happened that the pilot went up there and showed us something that let us with our jaws scraping the hangar floor, but this is definitely a load of baloney.

My experts don't agree, finding it really unlikely is a sarcastic expression, I'm sure you heard of sarcasm. I am motivating the reasons why that is unlikely to happen, you at the contrary, are just opening your big mouth and blurting out nonsense, mainly intended to provoke a reaction of other members who, unlike you, also do contribute fruitfully to this space.
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:24 PM
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you at the contrary, are just opening your big mouth and blurting out nonsense
Actually, I haven't said anything. I have no idea whether it could happen, and neither do you.
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:50 PM
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Actually, I haven't said anything. I have no idea whether it could happen, and neither do you.
I surely have more than an idea on whether this could happen or not, while you, being aeronautically ignorant, don't.
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:45 PM
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I surely have more than an idea on whether this could happen or not, while you, being aeronautically ignorant, don't.
Wake me when you find an expert who can give you a definitive "no". Right now your expert appears to think it's possible.
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:50 PM
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Wake me when you find an expert who can give you a definitive "no". Right now your expert appears to think it's possible.
Where did u read this exactly?
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:55 PM
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even if it did, it's probably cos the pilot screwed up big time
If your boy doesn't think it's possible, why even mention how it could have happened?
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:27 PM
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WOw seriously guys, start your own PM(s) fight

You guys always go at eachother, like two dungbeetles fighting over some dung


Oh and don't drag me into this

On topic, either way if it were a stall or whatever it's too hollywood. That means it happens too fast, at too short distance. It's like a car would do a U-turn with the handbrake... Plane looses speed too fast, turns too fast, and fires without airspeed even. He would not be able to keep his nose up with that low airspeed so IRL it would have to be done in a vertical manner... Only did this once in IL-2, in a P-38 Got a zero after doing a stall-turn coming straight at him again. I totally won that day
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:39 PM
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Any news on the new Dambusters film?
Obviously we won't mention the dog...
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:14 PM
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Any news on the new Dambusters film?
Obviously we won't mention the dog...
As the Project isn't mentioned in the ImdB.com anymore, ist pretty sure that the Dambusters remake has been cancelled.
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